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Chunk Yogurt for President!
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Junior Chimp
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« on: November 10, 2016, 05:05:34 PM »

That's why you have to come at it from a perspective of understanding.  Engage in a productive dialogue, do your best to help them understand the perspective of your policy, and don't demonize them if they disagree.  Maybe they'll come around in a few years.  What I've seen happen with gay rights is that immediately after the victory, the lgbt community decided they were done building understanding and that anyone left who disagreed was a hateful bigot.  And at the same time they have been trying to push society even further.  There are people who are comfortable with the status quo of gay marriage being legal, but when they see their uncomfortable peers attacked, demonized, even forced out of their jobs like the JavaScript CEO, they're very hesitant to join forces with a group that is now pushing to put them themselves in that same position, where they expect they'll be treated the exact same way.

This is also a huge reason as to why Evangelicals turned out for Trump.  The religious liberty issue was the main thing driving them to the polls.
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Chunk Yogurt for President!
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,234
Georgia


« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2016, 02:47:46 PM »

Liberals will need to win them back -- and if the Right manages to impose bans on abortion and same-sex marriage and the imposition of fundamentalist Christianity and creationism in public schools, then we dare not return it.

The alternative is a New Feudalism of debt-bondage, torture chambers, and concentration camps in America.  Take your choice -- no abortion, or no freedom... a right-wing version of the Soviet Union or a Christian state.

The religious right is dead.  There is more threat of prohibition coming back than a Christian Thoecracy in America.
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