Do you believe in evolution?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

No, not really.

It is not really a question of belief.

I do hold however that it is the most likeliest explanation of those offered so far.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Yes, I think evolution describes the process of how human beings eventually got here pretty well. 

But, if somebody ever tells the other primates about evolution, they're going to be ashamed, disappointed and pissed.

"Evolution" in this sense is not normative. It does not state that Humans are superior to any other creature. That is a common popular misconception but rating species hierarchially (in terms of "better" or "worse") is something of no scientific validity whatsoever. And it would be very wrong to see evolution as teleological process which led inexorabily to us (that is just theology/eschatology under a scientific guise).

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I'll add that I can not believe in any thought system which holds that the nature of the universe or of life is by nature anthrocentric. Anthropomorphizing the world around us is pretty much an inevitable part of being human but tells us nothing about the world only ourselves.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I'll add that I can not believe in any thought system which holds that the nature of the universe or of life is by nature anthrocentric. Anthropomorphizing the world around us is pretty much an inevitable part of being human but tells us nothing about the world only ourselves.

It's an ancient view but they were coming to terms the same as we are today. Think of horses, they may think the universe is horsecentric. The same with ants.

Yes but then would not the horses and ants have different Gods? And how are we to Judge whether the "Horse God" or the "Human God" is more true (especially when considering how many Gods humans have... Ants may have millions given how much of them there are)?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I'll add that I can not believe in any thought system which holds that the nature of the universe or of life is by nature anthrocentric. Anthropomorphizing the world around us is pretty much an inevitable part of being human but tells us nothing about the world only ourselves.

It's an ancient view but they were coming to terms the same as we are today. Think of horses, they may think the universe is horsecentric. The same with ants.

Yes but then would not the horses and ants have different Gods? And how are we to Judge whether the "Horse God" or the "Human God" is more true (especially when considering how many Gods humans have... Ants may have millions given how much of them there are)?

I have no way of knowing if horses have gods, but if horses could draw the gods what would they draw? Perhaps it's natural to take the view that one's species is revolved around. This is a good discussion.

You are not making sense.