6th grade girl shoots 3 in ID school

[Tender Branson]

A sixth-grade girl brought a gun to her Idaho middle school, shot and wounded two students and a custodian and then was disarmed by a teacher Thursday, authorities said.

The three victims were shot in their limbs and expected to survive, officials said at a news conference. Jefferson County Sheriff Steve Anderson says the girl pulled a handgun from her backpack and fired multiple rounds inside and outside Rigby Middle School in the small city of Rigby, about 95 miles southwest of Yellowstone National Park.

A female teacher disarmed the girl and held her until law enforcement arrived and took her into custody, authorities said, without giving other details. Authorities say they're investigating the motive for the attack and where the girl got the gun.

https://kstp.com/national/shooting-at-idaho-middle-school-injures-3-student-captured/6098801/

[Tender Branson]

Very sad and troubling.

It’s a 90% Trump city/county btw.

[_.]

How heartbreaking, she's literally a 12 year old and she was going around on a killing spree.

How could this specific case realistically have been prevented though?

I mean, from what we know, this girl almost certainly took her father's unattended gun and used that to shoot up the school, It's not like a background check thing can solve this specific case (no doubt it could for others though). Like should there be laws enforcing parents to keep guns away from certain kids' reach (those with mental health problems or those under a certain age) unless they're supervised? (it sounds like a good idea to me TBH) And how do we enforce those hypothetical laws? (serious question) Or maybe more investment in mental health services for troubled kids as well?

Also, I've no doubt that this person was inspired by other school shooters. It's clearly a vicious cycle, and I hate that it's been so nornalized. No doubt the media'll have 24/7 coverage of this girl and her face everywhere (especially her because "oh wow she's so young!"), and this sensationalization could possibly inspire someone else of a disturbed mental condition and a young age who wants attention to commit a similar crime.

Also (from the article):

A female teacher disarmed the girl and held her until law enforcement arrived and took her into custody, authorities said, without giving other details.

The true MVP. Who knows how many lives this person saved.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Terrible. Just children.

[S019]

But....but...here's why people still need guns

Like seriously, thoughts and prayers is not enough, this is an epidemic and a disease, and we need to attack it as one.

[_.]

But....but...here's why people still need guns

There obviously has to be some kind of balance between literally banning all guns and our current situation. There are valid reasons to own a gun (maybe not where you live, but definitely in other parts of the country), and in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns yet they don't have school shootings at this scale.

Like seriously, thoughts and prayers is not enough, this is an epidemic and a disease, and we need to attack it as one.

Agreed

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

How could this specific case realistically have been prevented though?

I mean, from what we know, this girl almost certainly took her father's unattended gun and used that to shoot up the school, It's not like a background check thing can solve this specific case (no doubt it could for others though). Like should there be laws enforcing parents to keep guns away from certain kids' reach (those with mental health problems or those under a certain age) unless they're supervised? (it sounds like a good idea to me TBH) And how do we enforce those hypothetical laws? (serious question) Or maybe more investment in mental health services for troubled kids as well?

Gun safe

A gun safe is a safe for one or more firearms and/or ammunition for guns. Gun safes are primarily used to prevent access to unauthorized or unqualified persons, for burglary protection, and, in more capable safes, to protect the contents from damage during a flood, fire, or natural disaster. Access prevention is required by law in many places, necessitating a gun lock, metal gun cabinet, or gun safe. Gun safes have largely replaced the gun cabinets made of fine stained wood with etched glass fronts used for display that were commonly used decades ago, although some gun safes are made to resemble such gun cabinets.

See also: Gun Safety - Storage

If you can afford a firearm, you can afford to store it safely. If you don't, you should be charged and forfeit the right to own firearms.

[junior chįmp]

You know, I dont even care about guns as an issue....I really dont. It doesnt affect how I vote nor do I follow its legislative developments. With that being said... the gun culture in this country is a form of mental illness. Its one of these issues where the proponents are so demented and extremist that you dont even want to bother debating them because you know its a waste of time and the issue is purely symbolic for them anyways. Sadly, we all basically have to put up with random mass shootings on an almost regular basis at this point because nobody wants to deal with these nuts.

[Badger]

Obviously the other twelve-year-olds need armed in school, so that a good twelve-year-old with a gun can stop a bad 12 year old with a gun.

[Pink Panther]

That's sad to hear. Hope everyone recovers soon. On a separate note, please Dems, please, don't introduce more gun regulations due to this, please. Mental Illness is the main issue, and we need more research into this topic.

[Damocles]

The gun owner should face criminal negligence charges for failure to properly store the gun used in connection with this incident. Having the awesome power available to you with a gun should also come with awesome responsibility.

[Indy Texas]

How heartbreaking, she's literally a 12 year old and she was going around on a killing spree.

How could this specific case realistically have been prevented though?

I mean, from what we know, this girl almost certainly took her father's unattended gun and used that to shoot up the school, It's not like a background check thing can solve this specific case (no doubt it could for others though). Like should there be laws enforcing parents to keep guns away from certain kids' reach (those with mental health problems or those under a certain age) unless they're supervised? (it sounds like a good idea to me TBH) And how do we enforce those hypothetical laws? (serious question) Or maybe more investment in mental health services for troubled kids as well?

Also, I've no doubt that this person was inspired by other school shooters. It's clearly a vicious cycle, and I hate that it's been so nornalized. No doubt the media'll have 24/7 coverage of this girl and her face everywhere (especially her because "oh wow she's so young!"), and this sensationalization could possibly inspire someone else of a disturbed mental condition and a young age who wants attention to commit a similar crime.

Also (from the article):

A female teacher disarmed the girl and held her until law enforcement arrived and took her into custody, authorities said, without giving other details.

The true MVP. Who knows how many lives this person saved.

If your minor child kills or injures someone with your gun, you should face felony criminal charges.

That would incentivize people to be more responsible with locking their guns away, or simply not owning them to begin with.

[John Dule]

See? Women can do anything men can.

[Mr. Matt]

It was the National Day of Prayer so of course you have to do your Thoughts and Prayers™.

[GP270watch]

America is a very sick country with this gun violence epidemic. It's amazing how this continues to go unremedied in our society. 

[FrancoAgo]

There are valid reasons to own a gun (maybe not where you live, but definitely in other parts of the country), and in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns yet they don't have school shootings at this scale.

Can you list what countries allowed to own guns easy like the US?

[_.]

There are valid reasons to own a gun (maybe not where you live, but definitely in other parts of the country), and in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns yet they don't have school shootings at this scale.

Can you list what countries allowed to own guns easy like the US?

Perhaps you misunderstood me, but I was speaking about my opinion of the idea that we should literally ban all guns from private usage, which S019 implied in his comment and which (if my memory serves me correctly) he has supported in the past.

Also, I did not say that in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns easily (nor did I ever state it should be that way). I said that in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns as private citizens. Here are some examples (out of the thirty most populated countries where people are allowed to own handguns as private citizens):

• India
• The United States
• Pakistan
• Brazil
• Mexico
• Ethiopia
• The Philippines
• Egypt
• Viet Nam
• The Democratic Republic of the Congo
• Turkey
• Germany
• France
• Thailand
• South Africa
• Italy (!!!) (In fact, no valid reason's needed, just a permit)
• Colombia
• Kenya
• Spain

Now, obviously, the United States is very unique as in a permit is not required to receive a handgun in most U.S. states. I never said it should be this way, though, and I do think that it'd be a good idea to slightly restrict gun usage to the level where people are required to get a permit in order to own a gun. In fact, I said, in the sentence that you cut off from my quote, that "There obviously has to be some kind of balance between literally banning all guns and our current situation."

[Xing]

-Thoughts n' Prayers™

-Nothing We Can Do to Stop This™ (even though this doesn't happen in most countries)

-Muh 2nd Amendment™, Muh Freedom™

-The Solution is More Guns Not Fewer™

-Mental Health Issues Are Important™ (but I'll conveniently forget about them in a few days when I can push another narrative and not do anything to address them)

-What Works In Other Countries Won't Work Here Because Reasons™

-Liberals Want to "Ban Guns" and That's Crazy/Worse Than What Happened™

-Liberals/Democrats/Progressives/"Socialists" Are the Real Enemy/Cause of This™

Am I missing anything here?

[FrancoAgo]

There are valid reasons to own a gun (maybe not where you live, but definitely in other parts of the country), and in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns yet they don't have school shootings at this scale.

Can you list what countries allowed to own guns easy like the US?

Perhaps you misunderstood me, but I was speaking about my opinion of the idea that we should literally ban all guns from private usage, which S019 implied in his comment and which (if my memory serves me correctly) he has supported in the past.

Also, I did not say that in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns easily (nor did I ever state it should be that way). I said that in most countries of the world, people are allowed to own guns as private citizens. Here are some examples (out of the thirty most populated countries where people are allowed to own handguns as private citizens):

• India
• The United States
• Pakistan
• Brazil
• Mexico
• Ethiopia
• The Philippines
• Egypt
• Viet Nam
• The Democratic Republic of the Congo
• Turkey
• Germany
• France
• Thailand
• South Africa
• Italy (!!!) (In fact, no valid reason's needed, just a permit)
• Colombia
• Kenya
• Spain

Now, obviously, the United States is very unique as in a permit is not required to receive a handgun in most U.S. states. I never said it should be this way, though, and I do think that it'd be a good idea to slightly restrict gun usage to the level where people are required to get a permit in order to own a gun. In fact, I said, in the sentence that you cut off from my quote, that "There obviously has to be some kind of balance between literally banning all guns and our current situation."

I've misunderstood, but more weapons more accidents
in Italy you need a reason, they don't give you a permit so, obviously is ever in the italian way, and the permit not authorize you to go out with the gun, if you need to train you can move with it not ready to fire and a pre-registered range

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

-Thoughts n' Prayers™

-Nothing We Can Do to Stop This™ (even though this doesn't happen in most countries)

-Muh 2nd Amendment™, Muh Freedom™

-The Solution is More Guns Not Fewer™

-Mental Health Issues Are Important™ (but I'll conveniently forget about them in a few days when I can push another narrative and not do anything to address them)

-What Works In Other Countries Won't Work Here Because Reasons™

-Liberals Want to "Ban Guns" and That's Crazy/Worse Than What Happened™

-Liberals/Democrats/Progressives/"Socialists" Are the Real Enemy/Cause of This™

Am I missing anything here?

It's Fake Liberal Propaganda/They're All Crisis Actors™

[LtNOWIS]

Am I missing anything here?

Dead silence. Since there's pretty much nothing left to say anymore.

[Dr. Arch]

Am I missing anything here?

Dead silence. Since there's pretty much nothing left to say anymore.

It's the sound of a country that's given up on itself when the only other option is action.

[Utah Neolib]

How heartbreaking, she's literally a 12 year old and she was going around on a killing spree.

How could this specific case realistically have been prevented though?

I mean, from what we know, this girl almost certainly took her father's unattended gun and used that to shoot up the school, It's not like a background check thing can solve this specific case (no doubt it could for others though). Like should there be laws enforcing parents to keep guns away from certain kids' reach (those with mental health problems or those under a certain age) unless they're supervised? (it sounds like a good idea to me TBH) And how do we enforce those hypothetical laws? (serious question) Or maybe more investment in mental health services for troubled kids as well?

Also, I've no doubt that this person was inspired by other school shooters. It's clearly a vicious cycle, and I hate that it's been so nornalized. No doubt the media'll have 24/7 coverage of this girl and her face everywhere (especially her because "oh wow she's so young!"), and this sensationalization could possibly inspire someone else of a disturbed mental condition and a young age who wants attention to commit a similar crime.

Also (from the article):

A female teacher disarmed the girl and held her until law enforcement arrived and took her into custody, authorities said, without giving other details.

The true MVP. Who knows how many lives this person saved.

Sad, that this had to happen. (Abdullah’s response is about what I would have said)

[darklordoftech]

Obviously the other twelve-year-olds need armed in school, so that a good twelve-year-old with a gun can stop a bad 12 year old with a gun.

If gun laws don’t stop adults from getting guns, I don’t see how they would stop children from getting guns.