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Author Topic: Is "basket of deplorables" Hillary's 47% moment?  (Read 23811 times)
DrScholl
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« on: September 11, 2016, 10:11:58 PM »

I honestly might vote for Trump because of this. I expect this kind of thing from atlas hack posters but calling 25 % of the country awful irredeemable people because they support your opponents political campaign is disgusting. How can she unite he country when she finds such a large percentage of it so awful? I'm sick of leftist identity politics telling me that my dad is the main thing holding America back today.

It's hard to believe that someone offended by that comment was not already voting for Trump. The truth is often painful.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2016, 10:17:02 PM »

ag, what is your opinion of White New Hampshire women who voted against Marilinda Garcia in 2014 because she's a Hispanic who decided to run against a White woman?

Where they white? Was she white? Who was white?

Garcia (R) is Hispanic, and her opponent Ann Kuster (D) was White. Kuster won by a "surprisingly" wide margin, despite it being 2014.

Kuster barely lost in 2010 running against an incumbent who was not Hispanic. That district is just the more Democratic of the two in New Hampshire.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2016, 10:19:41 PM »

I honestly might vote for Trump because of this. I expect this kind of thing from atlas hack posters but calling 25 % of the country awful irredeemable people because they support your opponents political campaign is disgusting. How can she unite he country when she finds such a large percentage of it so awful? I'm sick of leftist identity politics telling me that my dad is the main thing holding America back today.

It's hard to believe that someone offended by that comment was not already voting for Trump. The truth is often painful.

I was turned off by Trump's comments on Judge Curiel among other things. I'm not a fan of this idea that the majority of the people in my town and family  are awful people just because they aren't voting for Hillary Clinton. Always good to hear such judgment from the tolerant and open minded left.

The point wasn't about people not voting for Hillary Clinton, it was about them voting for someone who is extremely bigoted. Plus, there is the fact that Trump has more openly racist supporters than any previous Republican nominee. McCain and Romney didn't have people holding up confederate flags, shout racial slurs and death threats. There is also the small matter of David Duke endorsing him.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2016, 10:33:20 PM »

I honestly might vote for Trump because of this. I expect this kind of thing from atlas hack posters but calling 25 % of the country awful irredeemable people because they support your opponents political campaign is disgusting. How can she unite he country when she finds such a large percentage of it so awful? I'm sick of leftist identity politics telling me that my dad is the main thing holding America back today.

It's hard to believe that someone offended by that comment was not already voting for Trump. The truth is often painful.

I was turned off by Trump's comments on Judge Curiel among other things. I'm not a fan of this idea that the majority of the people in my town and family  are awful people just because they aren't voting for Hillary Clinton. Always good to hear such judgment from the tolerant and open minded left.

The point wasn't about people not voting for Hillary Clinton, it was about them voting for someone who is extremely bigoted. Plus, there is the fact that Trump has more openly racist supporters than any previous Republican nominee. McCain and Romney didn't have people holding up confederate flags, shout racial slurs and death threats. There is also the small matter of David Duke endorsing him.

DrScholl, there is no evidence that Trump is bigoted.

He has bigoted supporters. So what? Are we sure Hillary has no bigoted supporters?

Trump's platform is much more inclusive. He doesn't divide people into baskets.


Calling Mexicans rapists and killers is bigoted. Calling blacks lazy and refusing to rent apartments to them bigoted. Even mocking a disabled person is a form of bigotry. I don't need to go on further, because his entire life is built on division and hate.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2016, 10:36:24 PM »

I honestly might vote for Trump because of this. I expect this kind of thing from atlas hack posters but calling 25 % of the country awful irredeemable people because they support your opponents political campaign is disgusting. How can she unite he country when she finds such a large percentage of it so awful? I'm sick of leftist identity politics telling me that my dad is the main thing holding America back today.

It's hard to believe that someone offended by that comment was not already voting for Trump. The truth is often painful.

I was turned off by Trump's comments on Judge Curiel among other things. I'm not a fan of this idea that the majority of the people in my town and family  are awful people just because they aren't voting for Hillary Clinton. Always good to hear such judgment from the tolerant and open minded left.

The point wasn't about people not voting for Hillary Clinton, it was about them voting for someone who is extremely bigoted. Plus, there is the fact that Trump has more openly racist supporters than any previous Republican nominee. McCain and Romney didn't have people holding up confederate flags, shout racial slurs and death threats. There is also the small matter of David Duke endorsing him.

Unfortunatly there are only two real options in American elections. Is it really fair to call millions of people horrible just because they would rather take their chances with Trump than vote for Clinton? My parents voted for Kasich in the primary and are voting for Trump. I take offense at calling my parents racist or homophobic because calling them that is rediculous.

This is seriously not a normal election and Trump is not normal, not by any stretch of the imagination. There are certain people voting for him because they believe that he represents a white nationalist point of view. And there are others who don't really care about what he says, they will just vote for anyone with an R next to their name. That is what you call ridiculous.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2016, 10:54:12 PM »

I honestly might vote for Trump because of this. I expect this kind of thing from atlas hack posters but calling 25 % of the country awful irredeemable people because they support your opponents political campaign is disgusting. How can she unite he country when she finds such a large percentage of it so awful? I'm sick of leftist identity politics telling me that my dad is the main thing holding America back today.

It's hard to believe that someone offended by that comment was not already voting for Trump. The truth is often painful.

I was turned off by Trump's comments on Judge Curiel among other things. I'm not a fan of this idea that the majority of the people in my town and family  are awful people just because they aren't voting for Hillary Clinton. Always good to hear such judgment from the tolerant and open minded left.

The point wasn't about people not voting for Hillary Clinton, it was about them voting for someone who is extremely bigoted. Plus, there is the fact that Trump has more openly racist supporters than any previous Republican nominee. McCain and Romney didn't have people holding up confederate flags, shout racial slurs and death threats. There is also the small matter of David Duke endorsing him.

DrScholl, there is no evidence that Trump is bigoted.

He has bigoted supporters. So what? Are we sure Hillary has no bigoted supporters?

Trump's platform is much more inclusive. He doesn't divide people into baskets.


Calling Mexicans rapists and killers is bigoted. Calling blacks lazy and refusing to rent apartments to them bigoted. Even mocking a disabled person is a form of bigotry. I don't need to go on further, because his entire life is built on division and hate.

Again, DrScholl, as always, you are distorting his statements.

He said that there are rapists and killers among the illegal immigrants who if the immigration laws had been strictly upheld wouldn't have been there to commit their crimes. That's not bigoted. That's a fact.

He didn't call the blacks lazy. He said it's terrible that there are no jobs available for a large number of blacks living in the inner cities and that he is going to remedy that. No bigotry, just stating facts.

He wasn't mocking a disabled person. He was mocking his character. That disabled reporter happens to be the worst hack imaginable. Now, does being disabled shield you from any kind of critique? Is that the society where disabled people are treated as equals? Would we be talking about this if that hack were not disabled and Trump performed the same mockery of him? Talking about double standards and PC distortion of reality and common sense.


His statements about Mexicans and his mocking a disabled reporter are well documented. Mocking a person's disability is not a critique, it is bullying.

And yes, he did call blacks lazy http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/20/trump_complained_about_blacks_inherent_laziness_1991_book_says.html
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DrScholl
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2016, 11:04:31 PM »

Written by former Trump Plaza casino COO John O'Donnell.

DrScholl, you and I know better than to trust disgruntled former employees. We know Trump likes to fire incompetent people. John O'Donnell may have been one of them.


That's a very specific statement for a disgruntled employee to make. Generally, when disgruntled employees lie, they lie about things that are more job related.
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