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« on: September 05, 2017, 12:30:21 PM »

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-what-happened/index.html

This is just embarrassing.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2017, 12:39:07 PM »

There is nothing wrong with any of what is there, as it's all true as far as I know. And if he did indeed adopt his positions in a cynical ploy to keep to Clinton's left at all costs, that's disgraceful.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2017, 12:42:06 PM »

Personal responsibility seems to be foreign to someone like HRC.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 12:57:07 PM »

She isn't wrong... he's a major part of her character assassination.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 01:55:01 PM »

I don't necessarily think she's blaming him for her loss. She is correct that Sanders really did help contribute to the "Crooked Hillary" persona by continually implying that she was bought, even though he was unable to provide a specific example. I have read that Hillary also goes on to write about how her speeches to Goldman Sachs were a terrible idea, and she was naive to think they would be accepted by voters. She also talks about using the private email server as week. So it's not like she's attributing the blame to others exclusively. Rather she's mentioning everything that factored into her loss, whether it was attributed to others or herself. She is literally explaining "What Happened"
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 02:03:05 PM »

I don't necessarily think she's blaming him for her loss. She is correct that Sanders really did help contribute to the "Crooked Hillary" persona by continually implying that she was bought, even though he was unable to provide a specific example. I have read that Hillary also goes on to write about how her speeches to Goldman Sachs were a terrible idea, and she was naive to think they would be accepted by voters. She also talks about using the private email server as week. So it's not like she's attributing the blame to others exclusively. Rather she's mentioning everything that factored into her loss, whether it was attributed to others or herself. She is literally explaining "What Happened"

Fair enough, but I still don't recall Nixon doing this after losing to JFK or 1962 with the Press Conference.

I don't recall Al Gore doing this either, despite arguably having an even more compelling case to write about [ya' know, since he probably won the election after all].

If President Ford wrote extensively about his loss to Carter, arguably helped by Reagan's challenge, well gee, I don't recall such a book.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 04:07:06 PM »

Realize of course this is just one chapter of the book, and that the excerpts that were leaked were probably hand-picked to cause controversy. I intend to read the whole book and then make judgements about it and her.
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2017, 04:10:37 PM »

Personal responsibility seems to be foreign to someone like HRC.

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2017, 04:22:13 PM »

She is not pinning the entire loss on him, only truthfully stating the damage he did in the primaries. It's all true...
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2017, 05:01:25 PM »

The majority of "Democrats" on here defending Clinton on this is a minority thankfully. She's almost as whiny as the President. Also calling wolf on sexism is part of her downfall.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2017, 05:02:03 PM »

So according to her critics she cannot detail what she experienced during the primary? Interesting.

Hillary's haters will not accept anything less than her calling herself an evil witch murderer who was an unworthy opponent to Fuhrer Trump.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2017, 05:35:34 PM »

She isn't wrong... she's he's a major part of her character assassination.
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2017, 06:05:40 PM »

How dare someone challenge Hillary Clinton! She deserved to get the nomination without question!
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2017, 06:21:59 PM »

This just comes across as petty. I would think she'd be above pulling the whole "he's not a REEEEL Democrat!!!!11!!!!" Sanders had every right to be critical of Hillary Clinton, since the nomination wasn't hers by right, and his "attacks" were nothing compared to what Republicans threw at her.
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2017, 06:36:52 PM »

She is allowed to express her opinion. 20+ years of public service allows her that much. Regardless of how you feel, Hillary can finally speak her mind without having to care about what other people think. Im sure its a very liberating feeling.
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2017, 06:37:23 PM »

She is allowed to express her opinion. 20+ years of public service allows her that much. Regardless of how you feel, Hillary can finally speak her mind without having to care about what other people think. Im sure its a very liberating feeling.

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2017, 07:02:22 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2017, 07:15:10 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2017, 07:27:31 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2017, 07:28:17 PM »

She isn't wrong... he's a major part of her character assassination.
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2017, 07:29:02 PM »

How dare someone challenge Bernie Sanders! He deserved to get the nomination despite losing!
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2017, 07:29:53 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2017, 07:55:39 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2017, 08:13:35 PM »
« Edited: September 05, 2017, 08:18:53 PM by Libertarian-Leaning Progressive »

Your right! I forgot about the part when Bernie forced Hillary to run one of the worst campaigns in American history!
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2017, 08:19:00 PM »

Bernie didn't attack Clinton's character nearly enough. The "American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails" line likely cost Sanders the nomination and elected Trump.

Clinton was lucky in that what cost her the general, the email scandal, was tiptoed around during the primary season.  Sanders should have tested her more, alas.
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