The GOP War on Women - The Megathread

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Do the attacks and boycotts against Condoleeza Rice count as part of the liberals war on women?

She's a war criminal, so no.

And Hillary is not somehow?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

How dare that misogynist talk about my Ayn in some terms!

I can subjectively but full-throatedly state for the umpteenth time that Ayn Rand was not a significant original thinker in any of the world's great philosophical traditions. Julian of Norwich, Tadano Makuzu, and G.E.M. Anscombe are the first three women who pop into my head when that concept does.

[Joe Republic]

The William 'Lord Haw-Haw' Joyce of this war chimes in...

[quote author=Phyllis Schafly

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/15/3426856/prominent-republican-women-need-to-be-paid-less-than-men-so-they-can-find-good-husbands/

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    Another fact is the influence of hypergamy, which means that women typically choose a mate (husband or boyfriend) who earns more than she does. Men don’t have the same preference for a higher-earning mate.

    While women prefer to HAVE a higher-earning partner, men generally prefer to BE the higher-earning partner in a relationship. This simple but profound difference between the sexes has powerful consequences for the so-called pay gap.

    Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate.

    Obviously, I’m not saying women won’t date or marry a lower-earning men, only that they probably prefer not to. If a higher-earning man is not available, many women are more likely not to marry at all. [...]

    The best way to improve economic prospects for women is to improve job prospects for the men in their lives, even if that means increasing the so-called pay gap.

[MaxQue]

Who is that Syphyllis Schafly?
She sounds very jealous of not being a man.

[Potatoe]

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Alright, how have the EVUL LIBRULS brainwashed women into voting for the Democrats?

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They seemed to not like Rod Blagojevich all that much, also Spitzer and Weiner weren't let off scot free either.

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The Republican Party didn't condemn Romney, Bush, Palin or McCain for Flip Flopping too, what's the deal?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Who is that Syphyllis Schafly?
She sounds very jealous of not being a man.

No, no, not sexist or degrading at all.

[HAnnA MArin County]

I find it quite ironic (but not surprising) that Republicans are whining about Democrats "exploiting" this War on Women, especially since they exploit everything from guns and gays to Christmas. Both sides "exploit" — it's called politics.

[Joe Republic]

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And then here's the reality:

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

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And then here's the reality:

That chart is based on number of services provided, not on how much money Planned Parenthood makes from them.  Even assuming the profit margin is equal on all services, because an abortion costs considerably more than most of those other services, abortion has to be providing more than 3% of revenues.

While that doesn't change the fact that Mr. Patrick is engaging in hyperbole by claiming that abortion was the sole revenue source for Planned Parenthood, that doesn't change the validity of his question: "Why are they closing clinics if they’re making money on providing women’s health?"

[Badger]

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And then here's the reality:

That chart is based on number of services provided, not on how much money Planned Parenthood makes from them.  Even assuming the profit margin is equal on all services, because an abortion costs considerably more than most of those other services, abortion has to be providing more than 3% of revenues.

While that doesn't change the fact that Mr. Patrick is engaging in hyperbole by claiming that abortion was the sole revenue source for Planned Parenthood, that doesn't change the validity of his question: "Why are they closing clinics if they’re making money on providing women’s health?"

Without commenting on the underlying issue, arguably abortions have considerably more expenses incurred to perform, and thus it's an assumption that the rate of profit isn't considerably different compared to their other services?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Without commenting on the underlying issue, arguably abortions have considerably more expenses incurred to perform, and thus it's an assumption that the rate of profit isn't considerably different compared to their other services?

They also are more expensive, and potentially could have a higher rate of return.  In the absence of any data that I have on the costs and thus of the rate of return, I limited myself to commenting on gross revenues rather than net profit.  Still, it would seem that that providing abortion services was a net money maker (before accounting for any additional facilities expenses incurred so as to be able to perform abortions there) for Planned Parenthood as otherwise it would make economic sense to remain open and provide those services that they could in that location.  The only reason to close if an inability to perform abortions did not impact their bottom line adversely would be if Planned Parenthood is willing to provide other services only if they can also provide abortions.

[Joe Republic]

Why do you keep talking as if Planned Parenthood makes a profit?  You do know what kind of organization it is, right?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why do you keep talking as if Planned Parenthood makes a profit?  You do know what kind of organization it is, right?

If you think non-profit organizations never consider the bottom line, then you truly are naive.  While they don't distribute profits as shareholder dividends, they do use them to expand operations and staff salaries.  Being non-profit does not make an organization immune to market forces, it only affects what they do if they are successful.

The complete closing of Planned Parenthood centers in the wake of additional restrictions on abortion makes economic sense only if they needed the profits from providing abortion to fund the operation of the other services they provided at those locations.  Now, it may be they are trying to make some sort of political statement by closing those locations, but if they think they can shame the Texas GOP into reversing its position on abortion by doing so, then they are sadly and profoundly mistaken.

[Brittain33]

Limbaugh: Hillary's 'Only And Greatest Achievement' Is 'Being Female'

"You boil it down here and the only and greatest achievement Hillary Clinton has is her gender — being female," he said, noting that the liberals focused on gender and race are "primarily young people."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/limbaugh-hillary-greatest-achievement-gender

Keep an eye out for how officeholders squirm when they're asked their opinion of Rush's comment...

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why would any competent journalist waste the time of their audience asking Republicans about this particular bit of inanity?

[Brittain33]

Why would any competent journalist waste the time of their audience asking Republicans about this particular bit of inanity?

Because of Limbaugh's influence among the base, and because politicians who criticized him often had to apologize publicly within a day or two.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why would any competent journalist waste the time of their audience asking Republicans about this particular bit of inanity?

Because of Limbaugh's influence among the base, and because politicians who criticized him often had to apologize publicly within a day or two.

So? I still don't see the point unless you think the job of journalists is to manufacture controversy.  Granted, many journalists seem to think so, and in some cases they'd be right, but not this one.  Other than the hyperbole about gender being her only qualification, I can't really say that he's obviously wrong here as El Rushbo often is.  Her record as an office holder is such that if she weren't a woman, I can't honestly see where she would be the all but anointed Democratic nominee right now.  She'd still likely be among those we'd be speculating as possible nominees, but not the nominee in all but formalities that she is now.  Her record as Senator and Secretary of State while solid was hardly spectacular.

[Joe Republic]

This attempt by the CO-GOP to introduce women voters to their all-male line-up of gubernatorial candidates was... well, let's just say there's still a lot of work to do.

[Badger]

This attempt by the CO-GOP to introduce women voters to their all-male line-up of gubernatorial candidates was... well, let's just say there's still a lot of work to do.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

And Hillary is not somehow?

She isn't, when Democrats wage war, it's for humanitarian reasons.

[Joe Republic]

cc: lol fox news megathread

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[The Free North]

Some idiot on Fox called her fat....who cares, is this middle school?

Didn't realize people still watched that channel anyways.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Some idiot on Fox called her fat....who cares, is this middle school?

You don't see them calling men fat. The double standard is a microaggression against women.

[The Free North]

Some idiot on Fox called her fat....who cares, is this middle school?

You don't see them calling men fat. The double standard is a microaggression against women.

In todays society, women are much more likely to be targeted for their weight than men. If you want to attack the double standard blame those in the media and Hollywood for creating the culture we have.

Furthermore, we all know what the deal with Fox is, it really should not surprise anyone, similar to left wing media outlets attacking Christie over the same issue.


Always fun when our national media delves into issues that should be relegated to the kardashians.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Some idiot on Fox called her fat....who cares, is this middle school?

You don't see them calling men fat. The double standard is a microaggression against women.

In todays society, women are much more likely to be targeted for their weight than men. If you want to attack the double standard blame those in the media and Hollywood for creating the culture we have.

Furthermore, we all know what the deal with Fox is, it really should not surprise anyone, similar to left wing media outlets attacking Christie over the same issue.


Always fun when our national media delves into issues that should be relegated to the kardashians.

This is an unexpectedly accurate and legitimate response, well done