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« on: September 20, 2015, 03:30:40 PM »

Looks like it will be SYRIZA-ANEL again.

Tsipras should seriously consider swapping them with Potami. The advantages of not being bound by Potami are gone now that they're bound by the new agreement anyway.

There's absolutely no way SYRIZA will work with Potami for two reasons.  Potami has attacked SYRIZA for how they have handled the refugee crisis by taking a very right-wing position on the issue.
The SYRIZA government also stopped the gold mining project in Skouries which had led to enormous environmental devastation.  The company that is running the project is partially owned by the Bobolas family, the oligarchs who are major stakeholders of Mega Channel (the Greek Fox News) where Theodorakis worked.  Potami after the Tsipras government resigned tried to make the Thanou-government re-open the gold mines, which has caused more tension between the two parties.  
The Ecologist Greens who are SYRIZA allies have vetoed having Potami in any government coalition.

There's still a chance that PASOK and DIMAR will join the coalition (something DIMAR would like) but it's unlikely since former PASOK leader Venizelos wants nothing to do with SYRIZA and he still has a lot of power in the party.
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2015, 09:44:11 PM »

Notably for the next election, whenever it may happen, is that LAE+AnTARSYA were well over the threshold (indeed, such a coalition would be ahead of EK and ANEL under present figures) and that there is positive precedent for a small revolutionary party to exit then reenter Parliament; Synaspismos, SYRIZA's predecessor, fell beneath the threshold in 1993 but reentered Parliament in 1996. So we may not be seeing the end of these guys at all.

I agree that the anti-austerity left might be back at some point, but I don't see LAE and ANTARSYA forming a coalition any time soon.  ANTARSYA rejected the proposals of LAE to cooperate.  They're one of those tiny left-wing parties that are happy getting 0.9% and have no real ambition.
The problem for LAE is that their leader Lafazanis is not an inspiring figure.  Zoe K would be a more popular leader if she's interested in the role, but they will have to become a real party first and I'm not sure if they are willing to do that after such a disappointing result.

I think the 3% threshold will be irrelevant in the next election since it's almost a certainty that the electoral system will change to something closer to proportional representation.



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They were a one-man party until recently.  Their leader who was a founding member of PASOK, but left the party in 1981 was seen as a lunatic in the '90s but a youtube video where he predicted the crisis has given him new followers.  They advocate drastic changes in the public sector and the political system (they are planning to change their MPs every 6 months) and are fairly progressive on social issues.  
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2015, 02:31:35 AM »

Looks like it will be SYRIZA-ANEL again.

Tsipras should seriously consider swapping them with Potami. The advantages of not being bound by Potami are gone now that they're bound by the new agreement anyway.

There's absolutely no way SYRIZA will work with Potami for two reasons.  Potami has attacked SYRIZA for how they have handled the refugee crisis by taking a very right-wing position on the issue.
The SYRIZA government also stopped the gold mining project in Skouries which had led to enormous environmental devastation.  The company that is running the project is partially owned by the Bobolas family, the oligarchs who are major stakeholders of Mega Channel (the Greek Fox News) where Theodorakis worked.  Potami after the Tsipras government resigned tried to make the Thanou-government re-open the gold mines, which has caused more tension between the two parties.  
The Ecologist Greens who are SYRIZA allies have vetoed having Potami in any government coalition.

That's a load of bull. Skouries are owned 95% by a Canadian company. Bobolas had the rest of 5% until a couple of years ago but he has since sold his stake. He is just a convenient boogeyman for leftists, much like Soros is for conservatives in the US.
And while Mega isn't a exactly a bastion of objectivity and cool-headed analysis, they certainly are not the Greek equivalent to Fox News.

Also, the Potami never tried to persuade the interim government to reopen the mines, I don't know where you got that from. They, and every other party of the opposition including communists, just criticized SYRIZA for shutting down the mine citing environmental concerns despite the fact that our supreme court green-lighted the project. 

Excuse me if I don't consider you the most objective person when it comes to SYRIZA.  I would suggest you visit this site to learn more about the environmental devastation in Skouries:
http://antigoldgr.org/en/

Or maybe you can watch this documentary: http://webtv.ert.gr/ert3/16sep2015-antidrastirio/

Do you think this is right?
 

I would assume that the people who live in Skouries and are protesting against the project know more about the issue than you.
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