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« on: May 10, 2016, 08:51:46 AM »

NE D results: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2016/by_state/NE_Page_0510.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016, 08:56:49 PM »

Clinton has been projected by AP to win the Nebraska beauty contest. She's up 61% to 39% with 17% in.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2016, 08:59:06 PM »

Justice has won the WV D governor Primary, 50% to 28% for Goodwin with 40% in.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2016, 09:04:00 PM »

I bet Hillary has a good chance of winning in my state.

South Dakota? No. The only reason Hillary is winning Nebraska is because it awarded 0 delegates, so Bernie's campaign had no reason to care.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 09:14:09 PM »

Uh, the delegates are selected by the state party, who declared the primary irrelevant. So it's either seat the pro-Bernie delegation or kick the state of Nebraska out of the convention.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2016, 09:57:16 PM »

For tonight, Sanders is on pace to get 17 delegates to Clinton's 12. That necessitates the following in the remaining states to lead Clinton 2026-2025 in pledged delegates on June 14:

KY: 58% Sanders
OR: 85.1% Sanders (deny Hillary viability)
VI: 64% Clinton
PR: 52% Clinton
CA: 65% Sanders
NJ: 58% Sanders
NM: 56% Sanders
DC: 70% Clinton
ND/SD/MT: 85.1% Sanders (deny Hillary viability)

It's a VERY tough path.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2016, 10:08:13 PM »

Nebraska down to 55-45 Clinton with 70% in.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2016, 10:17:05 PM »

It probably won't happen, but it would be hilarious to see AP actually call a race wrong. There is still a lot of vote out in Lancaster County, which contains the state university's main campus.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2016, 10:47:41 PM »

I could agree to a small reduction in superdelegates in the context of an overall "primary reform" deal, but I don't think we should abolish them by any means. What 2016 has shown is that voters cannot be trusted to blindly pick their own presidents - they picked a fascist on one side, and almost picked a socialist on the other side. Just like in the general election where electors can be faithless, superdelegates provide an important "check" on the voters during the primary process. I can agree to the idea that if the voters go with the "wrong" choice by such a large margin that the superdelegates become irrevelant that then the party establishment needs to change their views and endorse the "wrong" nominee. But if the voters are sort of closely divided, the choice should be left up to the party establishment, as they are more likely to know what is truly in the party's best interest.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2016, 10:59:17 PM »

53-47 Clinton in the Nebraska beauty contest with 90% in. Lancaster is in now, but Douglas County still has vote left - could be good for either candidate.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2016, 11:27:04 PM »

I kind of want one of the 3 completely out WV counties to go for Clinton just to see Icespear's reaction.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2016, 11:38:20 PM »

With 98% of the vote in for the beauty contest, Clinton 53-47 appears to be the final margin. The main thing that's out is Nuckolls County, but it's very rural.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2016, 12:10:12 AM »

Hillary's final win margin in the beauty contest is 5,010 votes.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2016, 12:27:07 AM »

Sabato's model said Sanders +8 for Oregon. Take it with a grain of salt since they predicted WV would be decided by less than 1 point.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2016, 01:03:31 AM »

The final county to report, mineral county, gives Bernie Sanders the sweep of West Virginia.

Source: New York Times

Only 6/30 precincts from Mineral county are in though. Sanders is ahead by less than 50 votes.

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2016, 01:12:29 AM »

Democrats should just go back to being pro-coal - it's difficult for republicans to get to 270 without West Virginia and Kentucky.
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2016, 01:16:45 AM »

> using a republican wave year as a prime example
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2016, 01:26:23 AM »

I'm not that familiar with Tennant's campaign, but with Grimes I think she ran too far away from Obama, especially in that debate, and I also think a lot of voters who might normally be willing to consider a moderate D voted for McConnell because they knew he'd be the majority leader if he won and would really be able to "bring home the bacon".
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