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Mr. Smith
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« on: November 15, 2016, 02:24:34 PM »

The comparison is weird.

Obama:

Furthered LGBT rights.

Obamacare

The Iran deal

The Paris deal

The Cuba deal

Two-term president

Decent to solid approval rating

Nixon:

Furthered integration (if in a self-serving and seedy way)

Universal Healthcare (which Ted Kennedy and other liberals turned down for not being liberal enough...how's that different from Republicans turning on their own system again?)

The China deal

SALT

Two-term president (in theory)

Decent to solid approval (until Watergate)

...You were saying?

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Mr. Smith
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2016, 01:16:19 PM »

It's far more likely that Trump will prove to be the Carter of the Republican party;

Not a chance.  No one will ever accuse Trump of being a nice guy.

Well let's see:

Won the unwinnable Wisconsin.

Created a YUGE establishment and ideological backlash during the primaries that cost the Western States, but won on The East and especially The South

Mo Udall and Ted Cruz were BOTH ideological puritans that did best in The West.

Faced an opponent that lost 45% of their primary electorate to a purer ideological candidate that wasn't even supposed to have a chance

YUGE Sex scandal [Let's face it, Playboy was yuge for the considerably more moral '70's] that still overwent an opponent with heavy baggage.

Not hawkish.

Uneasy Congress relations during the campaign, but suspiciously overcompensatingly nice after the win...but already at odds policy wise.

Won The South,...except for Virginia.


That's an absurd number of comparables already.







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