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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 09, 2016, 08:18:34 PM »

Everyone does know that the primary doesn't end here? Everyone is acting like Sanders has won the nomination, when the opposite is true. Don't expect Clinton to drop out tonight.

No, no one is. They're acting like he's winning New Hampshire. And he is. Everyone knows that Hillary's still very favored to win the nomination.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2016, 08:38:25 PM »

MSNBC: Bernie Sanders is winning the women vote 53-47

Damn, Hell's going to need to make additions to house them all.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2016, 08:44:40 PM »

I am feeling so much schadenfreude. Hillary performing like this, losing women, and only narrowly winning the minorities...

I call it "Sandersfruede." Pleasure in Bernie causing others misery. FEEL THE BERN!!! (Said the libertarian about the socialist.)
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
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Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 09:29:23 PM »

Now CNN is saying that Hillary Clinton is the "real winner" of the New Hampshire primary because she's a female and she got second.

Wow. Don't they know that peddling these narratives are actually bad for gender equality and whatnot? It just makes them look desperate.

Especially because, you know, Bernie's winning the female vote. Which does give me some hope for the country, that people people might be voting more on the issues than identity.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
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E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 10:27:02 PM »

Come on, don't embarrass yourself, Hillary's electable. More than Bernie, not that Bernie can't win.

Also, please, Hillary as a "revolution?" She's literally running as a continuation of what we've been having for the last 8 years.

God, the hackery is being turned to 11...
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
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E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 10:40:32 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2016, 12:18:01 AM by Mr. Morden »

Someone who sweeps the independents & young vote is not electable & but someone who gets 10-20% of the independent & youth vote is electable?

Hillary's votes are the committed Democrat vote. You can put a mad person & he will still get those votes in a general

I didn't say Bernie was unelectable, per se, but that Hillary is more electable. Bernie would beat Trump easily, I think. And maybe Cruz.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Hillary's gender, last name, establishment loyalists, and the fact she doesn't call herself a "socialist" makes her more electable than Bernie. She'd do much better with moderates and probably a bit better with women.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
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Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2016, 12:21:46 AM »

Someone who sweeps the independents & young vote is not electable & but someone who gets 10-20% of the independent & youth vote is electable?

Hillary's votes are the committed Democrat vote. You can put a mad person & he will still get those votes in a general

I didn't say Bernie was unelectable, per se, but that Hillary is more electable. Bernie would beat Trump easily, I think. And maybe Cruz.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Hillary's gender, last name, establishment loyalists, and the fact she doesn't call herself a "socialist" makes her more electable than Bernie. She'd do much better with moderates and probably a bit better with women.

Here is my argument? Which support will come to the Democrat party regardless of whoever is the candidate? Hillary's base - The establishment, African American, Hispanics - They will come to the Dems regardless of whoever is the candidate.

Bernie's base of huge independents & young people(who don't vote) is a new addition for the Dems making a winning coalition. Hillary's base IMO any Dem Candidate will get. I think this is why Sanders is doing much better vs GOP in all polls.

Maybe I am wrong, this is my line of thinking - Cheers! Ron Paul was my GOP guy in 08 & 12 even if I think his economic policies are wrong. Rand IMO is not as big a libertarian as Ron & I don't like his Economic policies even more but by far my favourite candidate in the GOP -

Sad he quit. His views of anti-War, Audit the fed, against Racism, for legalizing Marijuana, protecting  IP rights & individual freedom was similar to Bernie. We are getting a lot of Ron Paul supporters.

Are you going to vote Cruz?

Nope, not voting for Cruz. I'm already on the Gary Johnson 2016 Hype Train!

I agree that Bernie will bring in some voters that Hillary won't--sure. But so will Hillary--lots of moderate Democrats would probably vote for someone named Clinton, but not a self-identified socialist.

And I wouldn't be surprised to see slightly higher female turnout for The First Female PresidentTM. I wish I lived in a country where this wasn't the case, but to lots of people that's a big selling point. A female president would be nice, but we need a good president. I guess it's a generation gap, though--I mean, people my age will certainly see multiple female presidents, more minority presidents, probably even a gay president! Which is why younger women, and younger people in general, tend to support Sanders. But I think this matters to the older women. Not that they wouldn't turn out for Bernie, but they'll probably turn out for Hillary better.



Oh, and...

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Dear Adults-Losing-Their-Crap-Over-Presidential-Candidates-On-The-Internet,

PLEASE stop telling others to "get a life" or calling people "losers."

I'm not better than you--probably worse, actually--but I'm not as hypocritical about it.

Thanks.
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