Federal Employees Labor Relations Act of 2014 (Vetoed)

[Cranberry]

Although I don't think our court system is that "bourgeois", I still believe the rights mentioned in this bill are rights every worker should have. Make that a pinko European of me or not, I guess I support this act.

[Cranberry]

I third the motion.

[Cranberry]

As I read it, it doesn't require the Federal Government to do so, just that it may do so. And it's quite understandable that a government agency with a large part of unionized workers would not want other workers that work for a smaller wage or anything, that will threaten their position. I doubt that many workers refuse to get better pay and better bargaining conditions. But that is probably just the pinko European in me speaking, after all, it's common sense to protect workers from getting into a bad, bad union.

AYE

[Cranberry]

I hope that the President offers a redraft, and not simply issues a veto. I am more than willing to discuss probable changes of a redraft, but I will of principle never support a veto, that might again be the pinko European in me. (in the sense of "muh legislative decisions be left alone by executive!!1!!)

[Cranberry]

I hope that the President offers a redraft, and not simply issues a veto. I am more than willing to discuss probable changes of a redraft, but I will of principle never support a veto, that might again be the pinko European in me. (in the sense of "muh legislative decisions be left alone by executive!!1!!)

blah blah blah checks and balances blah.

Oh snap, I just stole TNF's material.

Do you really want a reply to this?

[Cranberry]

Does the 72-hour period apply here as well?

If not, well, AYE

Hate me for it, but I oppose the process of vetoing bills in principle. Probably that's just as I come from a parliamentary democracy, a country where that single figure outside the legislative that we call President has just no power whatsoever (understandable when you know our history), where all legislative decisions are completely left to the Legislative. Well, yeah.

The Pinko European strikes again, I guess.

[Cranberry]

Well, yeah. SWE voted for the override, though; so it's 4-4 I believe.

Does the 72-hour period apply here as well?

If not, well, AYE

Hate me for it, but I oppose the process of vetoing bills in principle. Probably that's just as I come from a parliamentary democracy, a country where that single figure outside the legislative that we call President has just no power whatsoever (understandable when you know our history), where all legislative decisions are completely left to the Legislative. Well, yeah.

The Pinko European strikes again, I guess.

The Hapsburgs created and preserved Austria (indirectly). Without them Merkel would be your Chancellor.

We all know I meant that

[Cranberry]

Does the 72-hour period apply here as well?

If not, well, AYE

Hate me for it, but I oppose the process of vetoing bills in principle. Probably that's just as I come from a parliamentary democracy, a country where that single figure outside the legislative that we call President has just no power whatsoever (understandable when you know our history), where all legislative decisions are completely left to the Legislative. Well, yeah.

The Pinko European strikes again, I guess.

It's funny, because in part the history of my country plays a large role in my belief in a strong executive (given that Chile has been presidentialist during most of its time, and I happen to admire the politician who consolidated that system in the consitution). Presidents can make awful mistakes here, but every time the Legislative power gains the upper hand things really go downhill, xD

Well, it was just the other way round in Austria The beginning of Austrofascism happened just when the Parliament was "deactivated" by Dollfuß, and how the system that followed afterwards came into place is I believe well known...

Which politician was this you admire for consolidating the presidential system?

[Cranberry]

Okay, thank you for your answer. I have to admit, I know nothing about Chile pre-Allende/Pinochet, and even after that, my knowledge is extremely limited. It is always interesting though to learn new things about countries, even though they might be far away from home, they still have a story to tell, if you want so.