Ohio leg. passes 6-week abortion ban - VETOED by Kasich; 20-week bill signed

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Vetoed the Heartbeat Bill, signed the harsher 20-week ban.  About what I expected...

[Kingpoleon]

Vetoed the Heartbeat Bill, signed the harsher 20-week ban.  About what I expected...

The Heartbeat Bill is a lot harsher than the 20-week ban.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if you can't do it in super-red-redistan, you can't do it in OH.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

He will join Mary Fallin in the history books of people who claimed to be pro-life, but passed on their chance to be the one to get Roe overturned.  Sad!

[Beet]

Great news! Kasich would have crushed Hillary in a landslide.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Vetoed the Heartbeat Bill, signed the harsher 20-week ban.  About what I expected...

The Heartbeat Bill is a lot harsher than the 20-week ban.

Sorry, I meant the 20-week ban is more restrictive than the one currently in place.  The original law only required a viability check at 20 weeks, whereas the bill Kasich signed limits abortion at 20 weeks outright.

[OSR stands with Israel]

He will join Mary Fallin in the history books of people who claimed to be pro-life, but passed on their chance to be the one to get Roe overturned.  Sad!

This is a pro life bill, why sign something you know is going to be overturned in court. Its just a waste of time and money.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

He will join Mary Fallin in the history books of people who claimed to be pro-life, but passed on their chance to be the one to get Roe overturned.  Sad!

This needed to be vetoed for strategic reasons. The challenge to Roe can't succeed when there is still a pro-choice majority on the Supreme Court.

[Person Man]

He will join Mary Fallin in the history books of people who claimed to be pro-life, but passed on their chance to be the one to get Roe overturned.  Sad!

This needed to be vetoed for strategic reasons. The challenge to Roe can't succeed when there is still a pro-choice majority on the Supreme Court.

By the time it comes to them, they might have went from 5-3 to 4-5.

[Mike67]

Great move by Ohio I agree with it wholeheartedly

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

He will join Mary Fallin in the history books of people who claimed to be pro-life, but passed on their chance to be the one to get Roe overturned.  Sad!

This needed to be vetoed for strategic reasons. The challenge to Roe can't succeed when there is still a pro-choice majority on the Supreme Court.

By the time it comes to them, they might have went from 5-3 to 4-5.

I would prefer not placing any bets on judicial retirement.

[The_Doctor]

Kennedy's expressed a desire to be replaced by a GOP Presidency.

[Gass3268]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

[Dr. Arch]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

The war on women continues.

[Mike67]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

I'm Pro-Life and i'm against Abortion with no exceptions.

[MarkD]

He will join Mary Fallin in the history books of people who claimed to be pro-life, but passed on their chance to be the one to get Roe overturned.  Sad!

This needed to be vetoed for strategic reasons. The challenge to Roe can't succeed when there is still a pro-choice majority on the Supreme Court.

By the time it comes to them, they might have went from 5-3 to 4-5.

I would prefer not placing any bets on judicial retirement.

Don't rely on Justice Kennedy being consistent and predictable. Sometimes I wonder if the way he decides a case depends on which side of the bed he gets up on. Back in 1992, while handling the case of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Kennedy flipped on the abortion issue. Even his own clerks thought he was going to vote with the conservatives, and thus Roe was going to be overturned that year. When Kennedy decided to vote with O'Connor and Souter and to not overturn Roe, the clerks started serenading him with the theme music from the TV show Flipper. (Source: Prof. Mark Tushnet's book "A Court Divided," published in 2005.)
Kennedy is a "flipper" too about "gay rights." He's been in favor of "gay equality" a few times without ever having said that the Equal Protection Clause always requires equal treatment for gay people. He's been trying to avoid saying that. But over 30 years ago, when he was on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, he wrote an opinion upholding the federal government's prerogative to ban openly gay people from the military. And he has voted with the conservative wing of the Court to say that the First Amendment protects the right of the Boy Scouts of America to exclude gays from being scoutmasters.

[ApatheticAustrian]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

I'm Pro-Life and i'm against Abortion with no exceptions.

so you are anti-life?

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Over 30 years ago, coming out in favor of gays in the military as a judge would probably have resulted in him becoming the laughingstock of the judicial system. Everyone still hated gays then. And the boy scouts is a private club that makes no claim to serve the public at large,  so the equal protection clause objectively doesn't apply to them.

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

I'm Pro-Life and i'm against Abortion with no exceptions.

so you are anti-life?

I wouldn't call favoring the classic "3 exceptions" (assuming he holds that position or something similar) anti-life.

[Mike67]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

I'm Pro-Life and i'm against Abortion with no exceptions.

so you are anti-life?

I'm for protecting the life of the Baby and that is the essence of Pro-Life to me. It's not the fault of the child the reasons that he or she was conceived.

[Pheurton Skeurto]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

I'm Pro-Life and i'm against Abortion with no exceptions.

so you are anti-life?

I'm for protecting the life of the Baby and that is the essence of Pro-Life to me. It's not the fault of the child the reasons that he or she was conceived.

So you support strong government benefits for unwed teenage mothers who need to go on welfare or food stamps to support their infant child, right? Especially if that unwed teenage mother was raped and doesn't have the money for counselling, which the government would pay for as well, right? Because you support children, right?

[ApatheticAustrian]

I wouldn't call favoring the classic "3 exceptions" (assuming he holds that position or something similar) anti-life.

i read it like he especially stated that there are no possible exceptions and i think mike agreed to my interpretation.

if it misinterpreted his post, i am deeply sorry - "normal" abortion foes don't get my snark, i just can't stand it if people value the life of the child higher than that of the mother.

[Person Man]

I wouldn't call favoring the classic "3 exceptions" (assuming he holds that position or something similar) anti-life.

i read it like he especially stated that there are no possible exceptions and i think mike agreed to my interpretation.

if it misinterpreted his post, i am deeply sorry - "normal" abortion foes don't get my snark, i just can't stand it if people value the life of the child higher than that of the mother.

I hope if a law like that becomes the of the land or any part of it, that there are enough people to ignore that it causes a lot of problems.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Why do Republicans preach about how evil it is to have the government involved in people's healthcare but they want the government to control women's reproductive rights? I know the answer already but these people are such tools.

[Person Man]

Banning abortion is doomed to fail...it's like prohibition.

Before Roe vs Wade...there were a million abortions done a year under the table. All banning abortion would do is move it back to those circumstances. And since we all know that no state would be willing to fully enforce jailing women who have abortions, just like with prohibition, then the ban is doomed to fail.

Never understood pro-lifers, their viewpoint on abortion is doomed to fail just like in every other country where abortion is banned

It just destroys the credibility of the state where it already has record low credibility. But who knows? Maybe they can say they are closing gender gap in America's prisons and creating jobs? 5 by 25 could the post-Roe GOP slogan. 5 million in prison by 2025.

[Gass3268]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

I'm Pro-Life and i'm against Abortion with no exceptions.

So the life and well being of the mother is less important than the fetus and her death is okay as long as the fetus lives?