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RINO Tom
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« on: August 13, 2018, 05:28:04 PM »

So the guy claiming to be a “real” Republican managed to win 13% of the primary vote and one state out of 50.

Go away, John.
Truth. He barely got any votes. He's a democrat nowadays.

DURRRRRR
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2018, 11:54:38 AM »

Trump exemplifies the Republican Party better than anyone. It's why he steamrolled his way through the 2016 primaries. He is the perfect representation of the main tent-pole idea behind the Republican Party, probably since the Reagan years: "me first. Me only. F*** everyone else." The sooner Republicans like Kasich come to terms with this harsh truth, the sooner they can change their party for the better in a more meaningful way when Trump is finally out of the picture.

This literally makes no sense.  How would Kasich "coming to terms with" Trump exemplifying the GOP better than anyone help him, in any meaningful way, change his party "for the better"?  You can make fun of Kasich for being an opportunist or sounding holier than thou or just being kind of embarrassingly annoying, and you'd be right on every count; but people who act like Kasich is taking some CLEARLY dumb approach to his political goals are being hilariously unfair to him.  John Kasich is (to the extent that he's anything) a mainstream conservative politician who wants the GOP to adopt a more welcoming tone and disown open bigotry.  He doesn't hold liberal views (whatsoever), and he has no place in the Democratic Party, no matter how much Fuzzy Bear and Torie could have a glorious, cross-the-aisle high five about such a switch.  He is a former elected official who would gain next to nothing by becoming an independent.  His only avenue for elevating his politics is by remaining a Republican and trying to change his party.

If you want to think that pursuit is futile, maybe you're right.  However, people mock any Republican who speaks out against Trump's direction he wants to take the party in as "unrealistic" or "not knowing what the GOP *truly* is" or whatever other zinger that is thrown around to show how TRASHY the GOP is ... well, that's ridiculous.  Everything you red avatars claim about the GOP and its voters can be 101% true, and it still makes the most sense for right-of-center people who don't like the current GOP to stay in it.  Period.  This isn't some endorsement of John Kasich 2020 or even his views in general ... I'm just pointing out how simplistic some of you look at how to align yourself politically, specifically in states with partisan registration.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2018, 10:54:35 AM »
« Edited: August 16, 2018, 11:02:22 AM by RINO Tom »

Trump is more conservative than Kasich so he better represents the GOP than Kasich does.

You really enjoy kicking an Atlas RINO when he’s down, don’t you?

RINOs >>>>>> IINOs Smiley
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2018, 12:11:28 PM »

If he really wants to torpedo Trump's chances in 2020, he should not only primary him, but continue running in the general. He and Flake could run together and peel off enough support to make a difference. A Democratic White House might leave a bad taste in his mouth, but he may calculate that it is worth it if it diverts the GOP from going further down the road of Trumpism in the long run. I think he realizes that he probably will never be president at this point, and 2016 could have been his year if Trump had never run. It could be a mixture of revenge and "Look at it this way, I'm doing you guys a favor. You'll see."

Spoiler: More Democrats like John Kasich in 2018 than Republicans do. Check the crosstabs in his Ohio approval rating. The idea of a third party ticket hurting Trump is wishful thinking.

Regardless of what that says about the GOP, those are some mighty dumb Democrats. Tongue
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2018, 10:12:23 PM »

Trump is more conservative than Kasich so he better represents the GOP than Kasich does.

You really enjoy kicking an Atlas RINO when he’s down, don’t you?

RINOs >>>>>> IINOs Smiley

But that is you.

Many types of IINOs, friend.
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