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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: April 12, 2009, 12:13:38 PM »

My ranking is as follows:

Jesus Christ
Nate Silver
Buddha
Zarathustra
Joseph Smith
L. Ron Hubbard
Mohammed
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 02:54:59 PM »

Other than Jesus I hold all of them as HP
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 03:23:44 PM »

Nate Silver
Buddha
Jesus Christ
Joseph Smith
L. Ron Hubbard
Mohammed
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 03:32:02 PM »

Zarathustra
Nate Silver

     The rest don't matter in my estimation.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 04:40:09 PM »


Just out of curiosity, why do you think the Buddha was an HP?
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 05:46:07 PM »

Which one of these is not like the other?
Which one of these does not belong?
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 06:20:15 PM »

Buddha
Zarathustra
Jesus
Muhammad
Nate Silver

---Large gap---

Joseph Smith
L Ron Hubbard
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2009, 06:23:16 PM »


Congrats and welcome! You are now a member of The BRTD Hate List. Feel free to make yourself at home.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2009, 06:25:51 PM »

The most hilarious thing about Islam is that it is most likely the result of hallucinations from a brain tumor. Which is what most modern historians agree was the case with Mohammed.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2009, 06:26:15 PM »
« Edited: April 12, 2009, 06:28:34 PM by Holmes »

Let's see...

Jesus Christ
Buddha
Nate Silver
Mohammed
Zarathustra
L. Ron Hubbard
Joseph Smith

The most hilarious thing about Islam is that it is most likely the result of hallucinations from a brain tumor. Which is what most modern historians agree was the case with Mohammed.

A lot of instances in history are similar, such as being high off carbon monoxide or some other kind of drug for example.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 06:26:56 PM »

Buddha
Zarathustra

--large gap--

Jesus Christ
Nate Silver

--another large gap--
L. Ron Hubbard
Joseph Smith

--Massive gap--
Mohammed
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2009, 07:23:17 PM »

The most hilarious thing about Islam is that it is most likely the result of hallucinations from a brain tumor. Which is what most modern historians agree was the case with Mohammed.

I have very little doubt that hallucinations/lies were what caused the "preaching" of other prophets, including Jesus.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2009, 07:30:47 PM »

The most hilarious thing about Islam is that it is most likely the result of hallucinations from a brain tumor. Which is what most modern historians agree was the case with Mohammed.

I have very little doubt that hallucinations/lies were what caused the "preaching" of other prophets, including Jesus.

Well even if you believe that at least Jesus (and Nate Silver) never fucked little kids, had multiple wives, robbed trade caravans, massacred Jews and non-believers, banned alcohol, etc.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2009, 07:52:15 PM »

Well, first, I rated Jesus above Muhammad. I put Nate Silver below because he obviously hasn't really done anything, in a historic sense, besides making some correct predictions.

Second, what Muhammad did with regard to taking wives (underage wives at that), while disgusting, wasn't anything out of the norm for Arabic culture (or many other cultures) at the time. I think it's only fair to look at people in the time period and society we live in, or else we should be pointing to George Washington as a despicable, horrible piece of sh*t person, because he supported slavery and owned human beings. But we don't, because, at the time, that was seen as normal and not unethical. Muhammad did however enact a number of reforms that improved the lives of the poor and women in Arab society, some of which wouldn't be enacted in Europe until the 19th century.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2009, 08:12:29 PM »

Buddha and Zarathustra are the only two that really amount to anything in the final analysis - Zarathustra for introducing the good-against-evil paradigm that all future theologians relied upon (including Christ and Muhammad, both of whom he did it better than), and the Buddha for suggesting a way to overcome it.

Jesus is really a second-rate theologian, however. There is nothing in his words of any novelty or practicable use, and his metaphysics is stifling.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2009, 08:44:03 PM »

The most hilarious thing about Islam is that it is most likely the result of hallucinations from a brain tumor. Which is what most modern historians agree was the case with Mohammed.

I have very little doubt that hallucinations/lies were what caused the "preaching" of other prophets, including Jesus.

Well even if you believe that at least Jesus (and Nate Silver) never fucked little kids, had multiple wives, robbed trade caravans, massacred Jews and non-believers, banned alcohol, etc.

To be fair, the Jews of Medina tried to kill him and his supporters first.  He did at least try to get along with them.  And robbing caravans was kind of the whole point of Arab life at that time (outside of Mecca).

No argument on the other points.
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2009, 07:34:13 AM »


Just out of curiosity, why do you think the Buddha was an HP?
His ideas were insane and he was not a follower of God
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2009, 11:13:28 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2009, 11:17:39 PM by Torie »

Jesus Christ (he popularized a more humane theology in general; his acolytes and in particular Paul curdled the cream however to a substantial extent in my subjective little opinion)

Buddha (calm and wise and peaceful)

Zarathustra (don't know much about him)

Nate Silver (why is this dude on the list? He doesn't fit on the list; we might as well add BRTD or Torie  to the mix or something)

Mohammed (a mixed bag but it may be that if he didn't exist, the desert world would have invented him - they were ready for a theology more congenial to their daily lives)

Joseph Smith (forging US currency is a crime, and well, there is more to the tale isn't there?)

L. Ron Hubbard (a piece of human filth with no redeeming qualities)
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2009, 10:12:15 PM »


Just out of curiosity, why do you think the Buddha was an HP?
His ideas were insane and he was not a follower of God

Which of the Buddha's ideas were "insane?"
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2009, 11:02:54 PM »


Just out of curiosity, why do you think the Buddha was an HP?
His ideas were insane and he was not a follower of God

how can you fault someone for not following Jesus when they lived four hundred years before he was born?
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2009, 11:09:01 PM »

1. Buddha
2. Jesus Christ
3. Nate Silver (morally neutral)
4. Mohammed (some morally mixed behavior recorded)
[big gap here]
5. Joseph Smith (generally awful, probably created a religion for his own gain)
6. L. Ron Hubbard (definitely created a religion for his own gain)

Generally by level of human benevolence inherent in teachings and deeds, with Nate Silver being neutral. I know little about what Zoroaster himself taught (aside from the dichotomy of good and evil, which doesn't leave us anywhere morally), so I left him off.
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2009, 05:09:29 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2009, 02:14:34 PM by Sewer Socialist for Senate »

Buddha
Jesus
Nate Silver
Zarathustra

---Large gap---

Joseph Smith
Muhammad
L Ron Hubbard
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