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Lunar
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« on: December 16, 2008, 06:55:02 PM »

Obama apparently is going to borrow another trillion to go on a wild spending spree to generate consumer demand etc.

somebody's got some assets that would prefer deflation... Smiley
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Lunar
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 07:08:08 PM »

Personally, I don't disagree with Krugman that tight fiscal policy is not the answer.  It isn't.  Similarly, no one would dispute that there was some growth in FDR's 1935-36 period, as there was in the mid-1990s in Japan.

Here's the problem - very little of that growth was privately financed - nearly all was public.  It would not sustain itself without the continued pumping of money.  Heck, during the Great Depression, what exactly was that growth?  Very little.  Unemployment?  Didn't move much outside of government-created jobs.

So... all of the government employed people spent their money on what, the tolls for government-repaired bridges? 

How do you know things wouldn't have been far worse without it?
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Lunar
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 07:24:34 PM »

Fair enough, just want to make sure no one is taking particular slices of economic history to derive conclusions irrespective of causation.

or something
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Lunar
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 12:19:18 PM »

I'm with Beet now on this one.  Never studied comparative economics, but Japan does have those knocks against it.

Will our savings rate be pushed upward due to turbulent times though?  If you don't know if you're about to lose your job, are you really going to buy that motorcycle?
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