Is "basket of deplorables" Hillary's 47% moment?

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Yes. She insulted millions of hardworking, educated, Americans and veterans.

So those people are bigots?

Well, Clinton only left two choices: bigots or desperate losers.

In the other half of her statement, she said:
“That other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change.”

She left no room for people who support Trump because just don't like or trust her, no room for people who think the government is too big and she'd only make it bigger, no room for people who are opposed to the type of liberal Supreme Court justices she'd choose, etc.  If you support Trump, you're either a bigot or a loser.  Take your pick.

Clinton's remarks might work well on this website, where many red avatars think Trump supporters should be hung for treason (or something like that), anyway, but won't sit well with the American public.  You don't attack all of your opponent's supporters.  That's not fair game.

She said "Trump supporters", not Trump voters. To me, at least, "supporter" is someone who is vocally favorable towards their candidate, not a "lesser of two evils" type. And among active Trump supporters, from the primaries onwards, there have been strong undercurrents of both bigotry and economic insecurity. These are the people who responded the most to Trump's message, because it was tailor-made to win them over.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Any person who equates empathy with pity deserves one and not the other.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Any person who equates empathy with pity deserves one and not the other.

Luckily, Thesaurus.com, which equates the two, has no feelings.

It also equates it with "insight" and "compassion". But surely Clinton isn't advocating "compassion" towards Trump voters...?

The point is, context matters.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004533191/unfiltered-voices-from-donald-trumps-crowds.html

I see, you like to generalize.  Spin on this!
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls

Half of impoverished Americans are blacks, and the poor have much higher murder rates.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Half of impoverished Americans are blacks, and the poor have much higher murder rates.

Not getting into the larger debate here, but that's not true at all.  There are nearly twice as many impoverished whites in the United States as impoverished blacks.  There are also significantly more impoverished Hispanics in the U.S.  Blacks have the second-highest poverty rates (narrowly behind Native Americans/Alaska Natives) but don't compose enough of the population to be anywhere near 50% of the impoverished.

My mistake. I was looking at rates (which don't back this up anyway, now that I'm looking at this again), and conflated them with actual numbers.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

While we're on the subject, please explain this:

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

You are a piece of work. Trump spews all kinds of sh**t about all kinds of people, and Hillary makes ONE statement that disparages some of Trump supporters, and you reply with all this garbage.

You have earned the right to be ignored.

You could probably find Seriously? in the basket of deplorables. A case study on him and the idea of double standards would be pretty fantastic if you ask me. His ability to completely ignore Trump's own issues while screaming at the top of his lungs about Clinton's is remarkable. It doesn't even matter if they do the same thing - it's awful/corrupt/etc when Clinton does it, and completely fine / didn't even happen if Trump does it. Barely any proof required if it's a 'scandal' involving Clinton, but if the same scandal involves Trump, the highest burden of proof is required. Every detail must be confirmed and presented.

He's either a disturbingly-dedicated troll or hypocritical as hell, and I can't help but wonder how this kind of behavior translates into other aspects of his life.

I think you nailed his butt to a T.

As always, those from the party of "tolerance" think they are better than those that dare to be different and not vote for their guy.

Your level of Alinsky-like ridicule will do nothing to change my mind or shut up.

You know, I may believe in universal suffrage, but it's times like these that make Plato's argument very appealing.

Stop stooping to their level.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Hillary has to advance this narrative to enable people to get over their barriers to voting for a candidate they believe has committed a felony and gotten away with it.  That's the bottom line here.

Dude, the only way that someone still thinks she's a felon is if they're a conspiracy theorist who thinks the FBI is behind her (and do you think Comey, of all people, would willingly break the law to help her?). Otherwise they imply that their judgement on these issues is better than the FBI's, which is absurd.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Hillary is not condemning those who simply support Trump because they dislike her. She is condemning those who support Trump because they see him as promising a return to the "old" social order (see: Make America Great Again), whereby heterosexual white males were the unimpeachable top of the heap, and all others had to fight for a seat on the bus, much less high office (see: Trump's milk-white, 73% male Supreme Court shortlist). His scapegoating of Hispanics (and, to a lesser extent, African Americans) for our societal ills reflects that; his denunciation of Judge Curiel for "Mexican heritage" does as well. Like it or not, there is a significant portion of his base (not all of it, not half of it, but he wouldn't have gotten through the primary without it, that's for sure) which supports him out of some sort of bigotry; these are NOT the people who see him as the lesser of two evils.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Clinton is calling blgotry a disgrace and a blight on our society. This is all that she is saying. She should not have extended it to the people themselves, but otherwise, that is the message I get.

(Besides, Trump has spent the whole campaign season doing the exact same thing to Hispanics. Where was the outrage about that?)

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

When Hillary calls Trump supporters "deplorables", she isn't calling out your best. They're binging sexism, they're bringing homophobia. They're racists. And some, I assume, are good people...

In terms Trump-ites will understand