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pbrower2a
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« on: June 19, 2012, 10:33:51 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 01:26:30 PM »

I don't believe any of the crap that comes from PPP anymore.

CO is minor heavy in Adams, Denver, and parts of Arapahoe county. Check out some of the older neighborhoods and see for yourself (pre 1970s homes).

Colorado has been drifting D. The Romney campaign must go to heroic efforts to win Colorado... OR win some state that has been assumed stalwart D but has been drifting R and is nearly ripe for the picking. Just look at the 2010 election, which should have been a big win for Republicans in Colorado.

Rasmussen is right and has the state as a virtual tie, PPP has the state on the fringe of contention, or else Colorado is weak D.

It is safe to say that Colorado is one state that went for Dubya reliably but has turned on any legacy of his policies. Such happens the other way, too -- think of Arkansas, Tennessee, and West Virginia, the sorts of states that used to be reliably D in all but R landslides but that went R about twelve years ago as the political culture has changed.  

Mitt Romney can win Colorado, but for such to happen he must force a nationwide shift in voting in his favor or President Obama must endure some political calamity that nobody can foresee. Romney may be consolidating the vote that went for Gingrich, Perry, or Santorum in the primaries, but that will not be enough with which to win in November. He must basically take back the demographic of the old Rockefeller Republicans who are well-educated, liberal on social values, center-leaning on economics, and hostile to crime. Reagan and Bush won those in the 1980s... and Romney needs them back fast.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 01:31:36 PM »

Colorado seems to me like it would be a better state for Romney than for most other Republican candidates.

It is, and most of the polling confirms that.  I could go down to the local Baskin Robbins and get a better sample than PPP.

But not if he becomes indistinguishable from other Republicans like Gingrich, Perry, or Santorum by adopting their stances. Ideas and positions matter.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 06:49:16 AM »

The other side of the coin is that President Obama could pick up some voters who voted for John McCain because they were scared of a black man doing things that he now shows no signs of doing. Such voters went for Carter in 1976 and Clinton in the 1990s. That could not be enough to win any states other than Arizona and Missouri. Such is itself a stretch.
 
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 07:44:27 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2012, 08:23:52 PM by pbrower2a »

The other side of the coin is that President Obama could pick up some voters who voted for John McCain because they were scared of a black man doing things that he now shows no signs of doing. Such voters went for Carter in 1976 and Clinton in the 1990s. That could not be enough to win any states other than Arizona and Missouri. Such is itself a stretch.
 


LOOOOL! Did you really write that??

No one who didn't vote for Barack Obama in 2008 is more likely to vote for him in 2012!

No kidding that's one hell of a stretch!

Yes. I did. I suspect that many people saw a candidate who would achieve their fears of a black man who would use welfare and government jobs as patronage to black voters at the expense of white people, that he would use quotas to give black people the advantage in private industry by fiat, that he would be soft on crime, and that he would inflict a foreign policy in which weakness and guilt would prevail.

It didn't happen, did it? Did anyone fear that? Do you think that everyone made a 100% rational choice for President? 

Note that I also recognized that the effect of such improvement could affect only two states -- Arizona and Missouri.
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