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💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)
peenie_weenie
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« on: October 20, 2017, 10:48:29 PM »


(A)  Trump is less prone than Hillary to expand our foreign involvements.  North Korea is an unusual situation, the scope of which was unforeseen at the time of the 2016 election.  North Korea is very much a can we've kicked down the road to the point where we MAY have reached a limit.


Seriously, dude? Trump has been in office for nine months and has us the closest we've been to a nuclear war in 50 years. You can't spin that as one "unusual situation" with any serious credibility; it's, like, the one thing even resembling an international crisis that he's even faced and he's made it demonstrably worse. He is actively undermining his Secretary of State at every step to undermine diplomatic efforts with North Korea and elsewhere. The man asked in a meeting to increase our nuclear stockpile by a factor of 10. I have no idea how anybody can claim with a straight face that Trump is less likely to start a war than Clinton after the last year.

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Funny, when you remove that one word, suddenly it doesn't sound so bad...

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I'm going to ignore the laughable, unsubstantiable part about Clinton hating Evangelicals, and focus on this. Did you not see the joking Trump did about Pence wanting to hang the gays? Trump used the Evangelicals just like he has used most of his base, and is throwing them red meat because he thinks it will get them to keep cheering "lock her up" at his rallies, not because he respects them.

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Thank you for putting "fix" in scare quotes ahead of time, you saved me a little work. Trump has never shown any interest in the policy and has never demonstrated that he has any specific proposals beyond platitudes. He held a celebratory back-patting photo-op over the passage of a bill he later called "mean". The President goading his party into passing legislation that hasn't been vetted, discussed or thought out in any way is in no way virtuous. I'll give a (number of Republicans small enough to count on one hand) credit for NOT rubber-stamping the garbage repeal bills that have been proposed. Also what do you even mean that "we all know how the medicare expansion worked out"? That's by far the most popular part of the whole bill and has been much more successful at expanding care than the exchanges and is much more likely to survive the repeal process than the third leg of regulations the bill proposed.
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💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)
peenie_weenie
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2017, 12:37:05 AM »
« Edited: October 21, 2017, 12:39:03 AM by peenie_weenie »

Sad that nobody remembers he ran a racist campaign against McCain in the 2000 primaries.

This guy stole his first Presidential election, started a $2 trillion war that created ISIS,  ran  against SSM for his second Presidential election, and then completely botched Katrina. Why does anyone take him seriously here?

I think it's just we begun to see the full effect of high-speed 24-hour news cycle and social media's affect on society's collective memory. Nothing ever happened before Thursday as far as much of the public is concerned.

Jesus, are we really in an age now where you can't say anything nice about someone you disagree with? You can agree with the contents of Bush's speech here and still think he was a terrible president.  You don't need to start off every sentence you mention him in with "Even though he started an unnecessary war and presided over the start of the worst financial crisis in modern history, ..."

It's pretty annoying that in every thread where a Republican speaks out against Trump, there are a couple posts of people complaining that the person is still evil in some way. Saying you're happy they're starting to call out one of the most dangerous politicians in U.S. history doesn't mean you're going to vote for them all of a sudden, or donate to their campaigns, or write to your congressperson and ask them to name a goddamn library after them. This rigid standard where you can't speak about somebody without disavowing them is honestly just a super masturbatory way to virtue-signal. Get off your high horse for, like, ten minutes.
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