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Simfan34
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« on: March 22, 2014, 12:22:56 PM »

So now that I can get married, the next step is finding someone to marry...and that is proving to be quite a difficult task.

Haha, poor fellow!

As for Tweed, he has a point in that people have a strange obsession over this issue as if it were the most important issue facing the nation today. It can become a bit tiring.

As a black person, I must say, I consider the endless comparison with the civil rights movement to be a bit grating at times. When gay people move into a neighborhood, property values went up. When black people moved into a neighborhood, property values went down.

No, gay people weren't enslaved. No, gay people weren't hanged from trees. No, being gay isn't some sort of arbitrary social construct on which for decades determined what you could and could not do, where you could not go, and so forth. There is a point in Tweed's argument- your average openly gay person would be far more "socially acceptable" in the latte liberal circles that champion this than your average inner city black person.

Obviously gay people have faced a lot of bigotry in this country and for our shame. But saying it is the defining issue of our time is an insult to the millions upon millions who have been unfortunate enough to not be the cause celebres of contemporary liberalism.
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Simfan34
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 07:19:45 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2014, 09:22:07 PM by True Federalist »

No, gay people weren't hanged from trees. No, being gay isn't some sort of arbitrary social construct on which for decades determined what you could and could not do, where you could not go, and so forth.

What the hell are you talking about?
Being gay is a fundamental biological trait.

Race is a meaningless social construct.
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Simfan34
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 12:01:47 AM »
« Edited: March 23, 2014, 12:09:00 AM by Simfan »

No, gay people weren't hanged from trees. No, being gay isn't some sort of arbitrary social construct on which for decades determined what you could and could not do, where you could not go, and so forth.

What the hell are you talking about?
Being gay is a fundamental biological trait.

Race is a meaningless social construct.

Do not add extra sentences that I did not type to my posts again. (I took it as an inadvertent mistake, which I've used my mod powers to fix. - TF)

And my question was directed more to your absurd statement that gay people have never been lynched or segregated.

What did I add?

And it's ludicrous to act as if the two ever happened in comparable frequency. Of course it happened but it's a frankly insulting comparison to make, and indeed a dehumanising one, that the perhaps of hundreds of thousands of black people what died unnatural deaths in this country's history... are somehow worth less individually as to be equal to the sum of suffering of an assorted few gay people. It implies a certain... hierarchy of value.

I realise I sound a bit shrill and hyperbolic. But it's a comparison, often made superficially and without thought, that bothers me greatly.
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