Mass Protests in Cuba

[Continential]

https://twitter.com/YoungLabourUK/status/1415995244781395975

Can we ditch the Labour elite and promote Young Labour.

Bold to assume that Young Labour won't become part of the party elite in ten years.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

No, what Young Labour actually shows is how much the party's youth section has been a factional bin fire since basically time immemorial

Which is why it should be abolished as all it does is train people who genuinely don't know any better (how the hell do you at that age?) in the worst patterns of behaviour. There's something deeply horrifying about seeing people half my age engage in vicious bullying over internal THIGMOO drama that happened before I was born...

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Young Labour.s shows again to the electorate how much the voters made the right choice.

Yes by rejecting Starmer.

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Dear person who falsely talked about apartheid in this thread.

One major Israeli response to Arafat second intifada suicide bombing campaign was preventive: the construction of the security barrier separating Israelis and Palestinians and the imposition of a much more severe separation regime in the West Bank. These tactics successfully choked off the access routes to Israeli cities and saved many Israeli (and Palestinian) lives. Those who now orate about "Israeli apartheid" should recall why this situation came about.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Only took 6 pages for the Cuba protests thread to become about internal Labour Party politics and Israel-Palestine 😂

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Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Good article from a podcaster I listen to:

https://thinkabouthistory.medium.com/thoughts-on-the-cuban-protests-c79051dd90a4

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

[Velasco]

Good article from a podcaster I listen to:

https://thinkabouthistory.medium.com/thoughts-on-the-cuban-protests-c79051dd90a4

Kinda balanced and insightful, thanks for sharing. This quote about Cuban migrants in Florida and the failure of the embargo made me think a liitle

What is a matter of fact is that the Cuban embargo has failed. The Helms-Burton sanctions from the 90s have failed. It is an objective fact that it has not fulfilled its goal, and it has only exacerbated misery and provided the Cuban government an excuse. The only reason the embargo is still on the books is because of a series of coincidences within the American electoral process. It happens we have an electoral college, it happens Florida became a swing state after the Cold War, and it happens that recent national elections have been decided by narrow margins. If Cubans had decided to settle in California, like the South Vietnamese did after their loss, this would be a dead issue. Same if they had settled in a deeply red state. But they came to Florida, and they have plenty of reasons to hate the island.
Cubans in Florida are mainly economic migrants. But it’s harder to find a government that treats it’s foreign population (you cannot renounce Cuban citizenship) with more disrespect than Cuba- where they are called “gusanos” (worms) and traitors. The Cuban government functions with the knowledge that emigres send money back to their friends and family. From their so-called treasonous population, the regime extracts everything it can. Remittances in 2012 brought in more money than the export of sugar, nickel, medications and the tourism sector combined. The regime’s hypocrisy is why you see Cuban-Americans support the embargo despite it being a complete failure. It’s also why right now, as Cuba is on the brink of a humanitarian crisis, Cubans abroad want to keep the American boot firmly on the island’s throat. Because it’s personal to them,political second, and it’s always a potent cocktail when you can find a political home for a justified hatred.
This is why there is no reasoning with the Cuban-American community, because it is a politics of grievance, insult, and revenge. It’s an enclave full of inconsistencies of belief. The belief that the Cuban government should fall by violent protest vs. not wanting their younger relatives to participate in said demonstrations and stay safe (...)  

Revenge is not a good basis to build the future

[Conservatopia]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Doesn't matter.  No matter where you live you still have to condemn the Grand Mufti.

[CumbrianLefty]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Some people have one track minds.

[(no subject)]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Some people have one track minds.

Some people would do well to become a decent person and not taint the memory of people such as Leon Klinghoffer by uncritically swallowing “Nakba” propaganda.

[Flyersfan232]

Kingdom of Cuba with the carlist  line

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Some people have one track minds.

Some people would do well to become a decent person and not taint the memory of people such as Leon Klinghoffer by uncritically swallowing “Nakba” propaganda.

I'm mixed to tepidly pro-Israel on ~The Conflict~. That's not the issue. The issue is it's simply not relevant to this thread.

[Velasco]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Some people have one track minds.

Some people would do well to become a decent person and not taint the memory of people such as Leon Klinghoffer by uncritically swallowing “Nakba” propaganda.

I'm mixed to tepidly pro-Israel on ~The Conflict~. That's not the issue. The issue is it's simply not relevant to this thread.

Some people has one track minds, other is denialist and turns a blind eye. Apartheid Israel is everywhere poisoning discussions in this forum, it seems. Shame on you. Mr Natphali Bennett is a rashist scum and makes me feel sick. But here the topic is Cuba and the Cubans, not the apartheid state and its victims

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Some people have one track minds.

Some people would do well to become a decent person and not taint the memory of people such as Leon Klinghoffer by uncritically swallowing “Nakba” propaganda.

I'm mixed to tepidly pro-Israel on ~The Conflict~. That's not the issue. The issue is it's simply not relevant to this thread.

Some people has one track minds, other is denialist and turns a blind eye. Apartheid Israel is everywhere poisoning discussions in this forum, it seems. Shame on you. Mr Natphali Bennett is a rashist scum and makes me feel sick. But here the topic is Cuba and the Cubans, not the apartheid state and its victims

Do you not realize what my display name is in reference to or do you just not have a sense of humor? Obviously I don't actually like Naftali f**king Bennett.

[lfromnj]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Some people have one track minds.

Some people would do well to become a decent person and not taint the memory of people such as Leon Klinghoffer by uncritically swallowing “Nakba” propaganda.

I'm mixed to tepidly pro-Israel on ~The Conflict~. That's not the issue. The issue is it's simply not relevant to this thread.

Some people has one track minds, other is denialist and turns a blind eye. Apartheid Israel is everywhere poisoning discussions in this forum, it seems. Shame on you. Mr Natphali Bennett is a rashist scum and makes me feel sick. But here the topic is Cuba and the Cubans, not the apartheid state and its victims

Do you not realize what my display name is in reference to or do you just not have a sense of humor? Obviously I don't actually like Naftali f**king Bennett.

What about Ayelet Shaked?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Muhammad only turned his cult into a new religion after the Jewish leadership in Mecca rejected his claim to be a prophet. An article in The Times of London at the time of the ISIS crisis said that given what would happen in later centuries, maybe they should have accepted him…

Not many Jews or Muslims in Cuba, is the thing about bringing this up in this thread.

Some people have one track minds.

Some people would do well to become a decent person and not taint the memory of people such as Leon Klinghoffer by uncritically swallowing “Nakba” propaganda.

I'm mixed to tepidly pro-Israel on ~The Conflict~. That's not the issue. The issue is it's simply not relevant to this thread.

Some people has one track minds, other is denialist and turns a blind eye. Apartheid Israel is everywhere poisoning discussions in this forum, it seems. Shame on you. Mr Natphali Bennett is a rashist scum and makes me feel sick. But here the topic is Cuba and the Cubans, not the apartheid state and its victims

Do you not realize what my display name is in reference to or do you just not have a sense of humor? Obviously I don't actually like Naftali f**king Bennett.

What about Ayelet Shaked?

Ayelet Shaked is Naftali Bennett for people who fantasize about getting railed by dark-haired SFF villainesses, so of course I adore her and would never pretend otherwise.

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My final OT post will just remind that The Arabs demanded All of Mandate Palestine in 1948, threw the dice, and got None of Palestine.

Abbas in 2011 said that rejecting the Partition plan had been a mistake, but as Brian Cohen that Monty Python character said, “bit late for that now”…

[CumbrianLefty]

Most people wouldn't disagree, they might also think banging on about it over 70 years later is passe.

[Velasco]

I invite you to continue this fascinating discussion in the Israel thread.

 Cuba for the Cubans

* To Nathan: I realized you were trying to imitate olawakandi. MR KAYNE WEST is MR NATPHALI BENNETT. "Nat" means "nationalist" and "phali" concerns his virility

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

There's been a spate of generals dying under unknown circumstances. The less conspiratorial explanation is the COVID surge hitting the overwhelmingly elderly Cuban leadership hard (particularly if they were forced to get together to crack down on the protests) but there are, of course, plenty of other ways they could have died that would have far more significant implications.

[OSR stands with Israel]

https://twitter.com/YoungLabourUK/status/1415995244781395975

Can we ditch the Labour elite and promote Young Labour.

It already happened and it resulted in the Tories winning their largest victory since 1987 and Labour suffering their worst defeat since 1935

[DINGO Joe]

There's been a spate of generals dying under unknown circumstances. The less conspiratorial explanation is the COVID surge hitting the overwhelmingly elderly Cuban leadership hard (particularly if they were forced to get together to crack down on the protests) but there are, of course, plenty of other ways they could have died that would have far more significant implications.

Well, I couldn't find an age for the last guy but the other 4 were 79 to 87 and how active they were I couldn't tell.

[Samof94]

There's been a spate of generals dying under unknown circumstances. The less conspiratorial explanation is the COVID surge hitting the overwhelmingly elderly Cuban leadership hard (particularly if they were forced to get together to crack down on the protests) but there are, of course, plenty of other ways they could have died that would have far more significant implications.

Well, I couldn't find an age for the last guy but the other 4 were 79 to 87 and how active they were I couldn't tell.

I mean, these are generals who knew Castro when he was young.