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« on: March 24, 2010, 12:47:32 AM »
« edited: March 24, 2010, 12:49:39 AM by J. Calvin Coolidge »

If the Republicans know what is best for themselves (and for the country), they will unanimously vote NAY on every steaming turd Obama, Pelosi, and Reid cook up.

Even Democrat-in-all-but-name John McCain said "There will be no cooperation for the rest of this year."
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 01:12:17 AM »

It's funny how Democratic hacks are so sure that the people will overwhelmingly support health care and the Democrats, while other hacks are so sure that November will be a landslide for the Republicans.

History typically shows that is the case for the first claim. The second is a baseless hope.

False equivalency must be fun.

Actually, you have things reversed.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 01:14:00 AM »

It's funny how Democratic hacks are so sure that the people will overwhelmingly support health care and the Democrats, while other hacks are so sure that November will be a landslide for the Republicans.

History typically shows that is the case for the first claim. The second is a baseless hope.

False equivalency must be fun.

Actually, you have things reversed.

Prove it.

I've studied history. In school.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 01:21:47 AM »

It's funny how Democratic hacks are so sure that the people will overwhelmingly support health care and the Democrats, while other hacks are so sure that November will be a landslide for the Republicans.

History typically shows that is the case for the first claim. The second is a baseless hope.

False equivalency must be fun.

Actually, you have things reversed.

Prove it.

I've studied history. In school.

In almost every case concerning big healthcare changes, people turn around to support them. People bitched about Medicare, some called it the end of freedom as we know it, socialism, etc etc. It's now hugely popular. Massachusetts (for all the system's problems) has a system that a strong majority of people like. Medicare in Canada had a rocky and scary start, with massive doctor strikes and other stumbling blocks. Now everyone in Canada benefits from it and massively favor it over the system we use.

Already, public opinion changes every so slightly more and more in the positive column just a couple days after the bill's passage. In a month's time, people won't even know what they were freaked out about. In a year, two, three, most people wouldn't even entertain the thought of reversing the changes.

Similar scare tactics have been used for all sorts of things, that, once implemented, don't turn out to destroy the world and turn positively thought of. Contradicting these observable facts, clear as the sky is blue and just as easy to see, is asinine. More asinine is contradicting them without evidence.

As for losing seats, I know Democrats will lose seats. Obvious fact as things stand now. A Republican landslide however, is a fantasy. Nothing supports this conclusion except the hope of party leadership and fanatics of talk radio.

It's hard to contradict what is easily seen.

Thank you for sharing your most recent personal fantasy. You should write fiction for a living.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 01:26:18 AM »

I'm very cynical about the intelligence of most Americans, so I would probably side with Marokai on this.

Well of course the members of the parasitic class outnumber those of the productive class. That's why we need to work so hard to defend this constitutional republic from the tyranny of the lazy flunk-out majority.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 01:42:34 AM »

Actually, Marokai, Medicare was very popular when it was enacted.  It did not have to become popular later.

And even a popular health care change like Medicare were not enough to save Democrats from losing 47 House seats in 1966 and the White House in 1968.

Only time will tell whether this has been Obama's Waterloo, but I suspect the Democrats victory will be a Pyhrric one.  This bill actually gives them little of what they want and comes with a heavy political price.  If we're stting here in 2013 watching Mitt Romney bomb Iran whether Democrats will think it was all worth it.

That won't happen since ObamaCare has killed any chance of Willard being the GOP nominee.
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