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« on: July 16, 2007, 11:48:55 PM »

I am getting so sick of the rabidly pro-Romney assholes on here who call anyone who attacks Romney a bigot.

Romney himself was attacked for being a Mormon by a Christian evangelical at a campaign speech, and responded by saying that while America was a nation of different faiths, it was important to have someone of faith be President-- which drew cheers and applause from his audience.

Romney himself is a bigot and is exploiting religious intolerance to shift away anti-Mormon sentiment to an even more disliked portion of society.  Anyone who has the audacity to call someone bigoted for opposing Romney's clear support of theocracy but won't acknowledge that Romney himself is a bigot is a complete joke.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2007, 05:02:49 AM »

Attack Romney all you want, I don't care.

Leave his religion out of it.

If he wants to suppress free speech based on what his religious says is objectionable, then it's completely fair game.

I don't care if, say, Harry Reid is a Mormon.  Great for him.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2007, 09:24:38 PM »

Romney is a firm believer in the separation of church and state.   

Wants to supress free speech?  Nonsense.

From what objective and secular logic does he determine that pornography and allegedly violent or offensive TV shows should be censored?

That's right... he's proposing that we legislate his religious beliefs into government policy which affects everyone.  The ad clearly states that he wants to improve the culture of America based on his religious views.

If you want to see real attacks on his religion though, how about the fact that Mormonism is a cult that was started by a drunken adulterer and lunatic who tricked people into thinking he could read Egyptian heiroglyphics from a bunch of tablets with special glasses that only he had access to?  Or the fact that the church he started makes decisions overturning their past polygamy, racism, and sexism only when suddenly politically expedient?

You see, his church is a complete fraud and sham, but again, what matters here is that he wants to legislate religious beliefs into public policy.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2007, 12:21:02 AM »

If you want to see real attacks on his religion though, how about the fact that Mormonism is a cult that was started by a drunken adulterer and lunatic who tricked people into thinking he could read Egyptian heiroglyphics from a bunch of tablets with special glasses that only he had access to?  Or the fact that the church he started makes decisions overturning their past polygamy, racism, and sexism only when suddenly politically expedient?

You see, his church is a complete fraud and sham, but again, what matters here is that he wants to legislate religious beliefs into public policy.

You have truly demonstrated your complete ignorance of and your unbridled prejudice toward The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a church you so obviously know nothing about.

It is ignorance and attitudes like yours that perpetuate narrow minded bigotry in the 21st century.

You must be a direct descendant of some of the fanatics who presided at the Salem witch trials. 

Actually, as I said, I don't care that he's a Mormon.  You keep saying that Romney is the subject of prejudicial attacks and I provided you an example of a real attack.  But hey, why not.  You seem to think that religious institutions should be immune from criticism, so let's talk this out.  What did I say that was incorrect?  Prove me wrong.

I know nothing about the LDS?  Criticising a church's origins is tantamount to presiding over the Salem witch trials?  Those are some tall claims.  You ought to back them up.

By the way, it's interesting that you are not disputing that Romney himself is a bigot.  Presumably you agree with him that we need someone of faith to be the nation's commaner-in-chief... because an atheist or agnostic is incapable of doing the job.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2007, 12:42:59 AM »

I suppose you whole heartedly support The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints then?

He thinks that anyone who opposes Romney because he's a Mormon is a bigot.

But, strangely, Mormons who support Romney solely because of his religion seem to be doing nothing wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2007, 01:02:00 AM »

I suppose you whole heartedly support The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints then?

He thinks that anyone who opposes Romney because he's a Mormon is a bigot.

But, strangely, Mormons who support Romney solely because of his religion seem to be doing nothing wrong.
Yes, but I am speaking of The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Yeah, I got that.

Mainstream Mormons hate the FLDS because they're an annoying reminder of some of their past practices.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2007, 01:15:35 AM »

I will not be drawn into this type of an internet dialogue with individuals who are obviously predisposed to an already unenlightened stance and prejudicial attitude.

That's what we like to call dodging the bullet.

Tell me, though.  Are you willing to admit that Mitt Romney is a bigot against the non-religious?
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2007, 07:36:00 PM »

Mitt Romney is not a bigot against the non-religious.  He simply has a firm conviction that strong moral values make for a strong nation.  Strong moral values will prevent the nation from decaying from within.

He said that an atheist or agnostic should not be elected as President.  Are you saying that someone without the Christian faith does not have strong moral values?

America is a changing nation,People saw past Kennedy's Catholic faith and I think people will do the same with Romney.

Mitt Romney is closer to Al Smith than John Kennedy, in terms of this analogy you're trying to make.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2007, 07:34:50 PM »

a person of faith is one who believes in a Supreme Being.

Buddhists?
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