Which election is more important/of more consequence: 2004 or 2024?

[Woody]

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[Pheurton Skeurto]

The one where one of the major candidates running has already tried to end our democracy and will likely try again.

[Skill and Chance]

2004 because (unbeknownst to them), the winner would automatically get to appoint the Chief Justice.

[Inmate Trump]

2024 obviously because an insurrectionist and literal traitor may become president. If Trump wins, it would be democracy-altering.

[Progressive Pessimist]

The one that didn't already happen.

[ProgressiveModerate]

This is honestly sort of impossible to answer because you never know what happens in the alternative reality where Kerry won - maybe it started a butterfly of events that ultimately lead to the US being a significantly better/worse place than it is now, maybe Trump would never have gotten into politics and we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, ect.

[Medal506]

This is honestly sort of impossible to answer because you never know what happens in the alternative reality where Kerry won - maybe it started a butterfly of events that ultimately lead to the US being a significantly better/worse place than it is now, maybe Trump would never have gotten into politics and we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, ect.

If Kerry won in 2004, Obama probably never would have been president. In fact, it’s possible Obama runs in 2012 and loses the general election to either an incumbent president McCain or if Kerry was re elected in 2008, he loses to another Republican.