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Keystone Phil
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« on: November 24, 2010, 04:53:52 PM »

If Christie announces he is running, the nomination is his.

What better way to stop a half-term governor than recruiting someone with even less experience?

Being U.S. Attorney in New Jersey for eight years is clearly meaningless!
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 05:14:44 PM »

If Christie announces he is running, the nomination is his.

What better way to stop a half-term governor than recruiting someone with even less experience?

Being U.S. Attorney in New Jersey for eight years is clearly meaningless!

Just like being state senator in Illinois was.

Uh...being U.S. Attorney in New Jersey is obviously more important than being a two term State Senator that abstained an unusual amount of the time.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 05:19:54 PM »

If Christie announces he is running, the nomination is his.

What better way to stop a half-term governor than recruiting someone with even less experience?

Being U.S. Attorney in New Jersey for eight years is clearly meaningless!

Just like being state senator in Illinois was.

Uh...being U.S. Attorney in New Jersey is obviously more important than being a two term State Senator that abstained an unusual amount of the time.

Why?

Are you that unfamiliar with the responsibilities of a U.S. Attorney in one of the most corrupt states in the country and Christie's record as a prosecutor?
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 06:00:36 PM »


Are you that unfamiliar with the responsibilities of a U.S. Attorney in one of the most corrupt states in the country and Christie's record as a prosecutor?

You mean he had executive experience?


It's not just executive experience; it's experience actually doing something. Like or dislike Christie, no one will tell you he was a do-nothing as the top prosecutor in one of the most corrupt states in the nation.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 12:22:01 AM »


Are you that unfamiliar with the responsibilities of a U.S. Attorney in one of the most corrupt states in the country and Christie's record as a prosecutor?

You mean he had executive experience?


It's not just executive experience; it's experience actually doing something. Like or dislike Christie, no one will tell you he was a do-nothing as the top prosecutor in one of the most corrupt states in the nation.

Legislators do something too you know.

Sure they do...when they aren't abstaining an unusual amount of the time.  Tongue

Obama has admitted he was bored as a State Senator.
 

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Already have him going to DC? Nice.  Wink

People like his attitude. You see it as bullying; most people see it as a politician finally having a set to take on powerful interests and not backing down when the going gets tough. If he can pull in approval ratings over 50% as a conservative Republican in New Jersey, you shouldn't underestimate him. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 01:55:26 AM »



Are we really going to have a debate about Obama's "present" votes, again? Really?

No, no need for debate. They were obviously very bold leadership decisions.


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Teachers unions aren't powerful in New Jersey? Really? And he wasn't taking on teachers unions as U.S. Attorney.

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And you think he has a lot of Democratic friends in the legislature? I'm not familiar with these "bribes" but I can say that he doesn't have a lot of friends in the legislature.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 02:27:04 AM »


What was Christie's record on white collar crime? We are talking about a state that was Wall Street's backyard.

His priority has been corruption just as a New York U.S. Attorney or Attorney General would focus more on white collar crime.

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They don't put up much of a fight against him because he has outsmarted them (see: Cory Booker). Yeah, some of these people have also become friendly with Christie since they weren't all that fond of Corzine. Take that up with Democratic leaders, not Christie.

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He restored funding in one of the most populated areas of the state and supports a new medical school in an area of the state known for its medical institutions. That doesn't suddenly make it directly connected to the bosses. Hell, anything the guy does in any area of the state could be traced to the political bosses. These points are nothing more than speculation.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2010, 02:41:54 AM »


What was Christie's record on white collar crime? We are talking about a state that was Wall Street's backyard.

His priority has been corruption just as a New York U.S. Attorney or Attorney General would focus more on white collar crime.

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They don't put up much of a fight against him because he has outsmarted them (see: Cory Booker). Yeah, some of these people have also become friendly with Christie since they weren't all that fond of Corzine. Take that up with Democratic leaders, not Christie.

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He restored funding in one of the most populated areas of the state and supports a new medical school in an area of the state known for its medical institutions. That doesn't suddenly make it directly connected to the bosses. Hell, anything the guy does in any area of the state could be traced to the political bosses. These points are nothing more than speculation.

Have you read the article? The Democratic leaders in the legislature want to fight Christie but they can't because he has cozied up with their bosses.

Yes, I did read the article and I know about the situation. Again, your argument is with Democratic bosses that went running to Christie in 2009. They didn't like Corzine. It's not Christie's fault if they tell the legislators to lay down. And they are fighting him on things.


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I know you're not interested in objectively looking at this/only care about taking hack jabs/think you know more about the situation after reading an article in the New Yorker so it really isn't worth fighting about this.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2010, 02:54:58 AM »

I know you're not interested in objectively looking at this/only care about taking hack jabs/think you know more about the situation after reading an article in the New Yorker so it really isn't worth fighting about this.

Those aren't hack jabs, they are the truth. When I said the same thing about Obama trying to reform Wall Street with Larry Summers and Tim Geithner as his top advisors, you seemed to agree.

You said he wasn't interested in reform because he supported funding that happened to be supported by Democratic bosses. Again, almost anything he supports in those areas of the state can be traced back to those bosses.

They were stretching to make Christie look corrupt and it was a really poor attempt, too.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2010, 03:09:30 AM »

I know you're not interested in objectively looking at this/only care about taking hack jabs/think you know more about the situation after reading an article in the New Yorker so it really isn't worth fighting about this.

Those aren't hack jabs, they are the truth. When I said the same thing about Obama trying to reform Wall Street with Larry Summers and Tim Geithner as his top advisors, you seemed to agree.

You said he wasn't interested in reform because he supported funding that happened to be supported by Democratic bosses. Again, almost anything he supports in those areas of the state can be traced back to those bosses.

They were stretching to make Christie look corrupt and it was a really poor attempt, too.

It's not only the funding, it's the sudden warmth these bosses feel for Christie.

Again, it's not sudden and this is why I characterize your posts as hack jabs. I've explained this several times and you're ignoring it.
 
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Maybe they fear him? Kissing up to someone can go a long way in politics.  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2010, 03:30:05 AM »

I know you're not interested in objectively looking at this/only care about taking hack jabs/think you know more about the situation after reading an article in the New Yorker so it really isn't worth fighting about this.

Those aren't hack jabs, they are the truth. When I said the same thing about Obama trying to reform Wall Street with Larry Summers and Tim Geithner as his top advisors, you seemed to agree.

You said he wasn't interested in reform because he supported funding that happened to be supported by Democratic bosses. Again, almost anything he supports in those areas of the state can be traced back to those bosses.

They were stretching to make Christie look corrupt and it was a really poor attempt, too.

It's not only the funding, it's the sudden warmth these bosses feel for Christie.

Again, it's not sudden and this is why I characterize your posts as hack jabs. I've explained this several times and you're ignoring it.
 
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Maybe they fear him? Kissing up to someone can go a long way in politics.  Wink

1)So you're saying that they loved him before he was elected? When he was still a US attorney trying to nail them?  
I knew New Jersey politics are weird but that's a surprise.

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I never said they loved him. I said they were getting on his good side before he was elected.

  

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Well that's because I never said that they loved him so you can't either stop putting words in my mouth and have a reasonable discussion or end the conversation here.
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