The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread

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One thing I missed was that in Evan McMullin's concession speech he mentioned 2020:

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/09/2020-evan-mcmullin-calls-conservative-movement.html

McMullin's continued to be critical of Trump since election day, so it wouldn't shock me if he ends up running again in 2020....but this time in the Republican primary.

I think he might win a state, but I have no idea which one. Maine? Arkansas?

Utah??

That's an interesting possibility. But I think Florida, New Jersey, and North Dakota might be more likely.

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Gillibrand is asked about Dean calling her his top choice for 2020.  She says she’s running for reelection in 2018, and “[has] no plans for 2020” (which isn’t exactly a denial):

http://www.niagara-gazette.com/news/local_news/gillibrand-mentioned-among-next-round-of-white-house-hopefuls/article_ad662393-9f96-57bc-9df3-e2bc01f92c22.html

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Gillibrand seems to me to be a young Hillary Ciinton

I think she's perceived as being further left.

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Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.

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Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.

You can't deny that the Bernie wing will be a stronger force in 2020 than it was this time around. The trends all point to it.

What does that have to do with what I said?

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Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.

You can't deny that the Bernie wing will be a stronger force in 2020 than it was this time around. The trends all point to it.

What does that have to do with what I said?

Sorry, thought you were replying to me.

But to add on: I don't see any scenario where a centrist democrat can win the nomination and rally the democratic base in the general election given where we're headed.

I wasn't making any statements about winning the nomination; I was talking about GE chances. But my point is that if economic conditions are dire enough it might be possible for anyone to beat Trump.

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Kanye's latest tweets now imply that he will run in 2024, not 2020.

Oh God, he'll do this every cycle won't he?

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Sanders had skin cancer removed from cheek

Oh lord, hope Bernie is ok.

Indeed. I hope it doesn't get any worse than this.

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Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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Here's a dispatch from that event:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/16/hillary-clintons-holiday-party-like-a-wake/

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Good. Now we just need to make sure that Sanders and Biden don't run.

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"Murphy Pours Cold Water on 'Draft Murphy' Movement"

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http://www.courant.com/politics/capitol-watch/hc-murphy-pours-cold-water-on-draft-murphy-movement-20161220-story.html

I like Murphy a lot but I don't think he'd make a good candidate.

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Hmmm...so if Murphy isn't actually interested in running for president, why did he campaign for Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, and then campaigned again in New Hampshire this fall for both Clinton and Hassan?  I guess it's just because New Hampshire's the nearest swing state for someone living in Connecticut?

Yeah, it could be that he was just doing it out of a desire to help Clinton and Hassan get elected (also note thst Ayotte was famous for strongly opposing gun control, Murphy's thing, unlike the other vulnerable Northeastern Republican Senator, Pat Toomey, who is relatively moderate on the issue).

Or maybe Murphy really is thinking of running.

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I don't get why people are talking up Newsom. Is he going to announce his presidential run in his inaugural address for Governor?

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I don't get why people are talking up Newsom. Is he going to announce his presidential run in his inaugural address for Governor?

...and even if he was elected Governor in, say, 2014, and had enough experience on the job to mount a national campaign, he's still DLC trash who would get ripped to shreds in the primary.

I often hear this, but what exactly is wrong with him? Honest question, I'm not defending him, just curious.

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I don't get why people are talking up Newsom. Is he going to announce his presidential run in his inaugural address for Governor?

...and even if he was elected Governor in, say, 2014, and had enough experience on the job to mount a national campaign, he's still DLC trash who would get ripped to shreds in the primary.

I often hear this, but what exactly is wrong with him? Honest question, I'm not defending him, just curious.

muh neoliberal DLCer. Not a true progressive^tm.

I think there are some legitimate reasons to dislike Newsom, but I forget what they are.

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Chan Zuckerberg Initiative taps former Obama, Bush campaign managers

I think this can be placed here.

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Sherrod Brown, Amy Klobuchar, and Claire McCaskill are all asked about running for president in 2020:

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/313666-cory-booker-kicks-off-2020-maneuvering-in-the-senate

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NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Not exactly a Shermanesque statement.

He's in a tough re-election battle, and looking like he's about to run for President the whole time is not a good image to have.

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I think it's pretty clear that O'Malley, Cuomo, and Booker are in. Klobuchar probably as well. Not sure about anyone else.

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Tulsi Gabbard took secret trip to Syria

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/18/democratic-rep-gabbard-makes-secret-trip-to-syria/

Apparently, she surprised Congressional leaders by not telling them she was going:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/tulsi-gabbard-secret-syria-trip-233762

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Didn't Kucinich do the same thing in 2011?

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I don't trust Politico, but great news if true.

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National Journal article on Tulsi Gabbard, and how she may face a serious primary challenge this cycle or choose to run in a primary against Mazie Hirono instead:

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/648013/fresh-look-at-tulsi-gabbards-political-future

A loss in either primary is probably the death of Gabbard's career.

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^It really annoys me when people use the "11/8" thing. The implication is extremely disrespectful.

I hadn't heard that until now. I have to agree.

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Article about Jay Inslee

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Are you ready for Chafee 2020?  He’s been doing a “comeback tour” on the political media circuit:

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20170221/lincoln-chafee-defends-trump-criticizes-raimondo-and-does-not-rule-out-return-to-politics

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But yeah, while he mentioned 2020, it sounds like he wasn’t too seriously about it.  Later in the interview, he said “anything’s possible” when asked if he’d run for governor again.

Also, in this story:

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2017/02/21/lincoln-chaffee-jokes-about-running-for-president-again-in-2020

he says he voted for Sanders in the Democratic primary last year, and then Clinton in the general election.

He could also be guessing Reed retires in 2020 and is playing with a Senate comeback.

Honestly the article makes it sound like he wants to primary Raimondo.

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Let's be honest, the leader of the Democratic Party is Chuck Schumer.

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Warren said on Maddow that she's not running in 2020, although she uses the present tense.

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Yeah, the contrast between her statements now and her statements in 2013-2015 make me suspect she is running, or seriously considering.