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« on: February 13, 2014, 11:29:03 AM »

Why would the fascists need to start an uprising in Venezuela? They have been in power for the last 15 years. Against whom would they be rebelling?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2014, 02:05:48 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2014, 02:10:28 PM by ag »

Why would the fascists need to start an uprising in Venezuela? They have been in power for the last 15 years. Against whom would they be rebelling?

Venezuela has clearly been a democracy for the past 15 years except for a couple days of fascist dictatorship in 2002. Chavez's attempts to amend the constitution to extend his own power were rejected and he fully accepted the results.

Venezuela does still retain certain democratic institutions - despite the severe damage done to them by the fascist regime over the last 15 years. But I do not think this is going to stay there for long. Chavez, it should be granted to him, was charismatic and loved winning in an actually contested race. True, he stacked the system heavily in his favor - but let the (heavily disadvantaged) opposition compete (within limits): he thought it was fun. Maduro will not be winning elections in the future, and he knows it. So, frankly, I do not think we will have many more elections in Venezuela under this regime.

In any case, ideologically they are run-of-the-mill fascists, Mussolini copycats. Which, of course, makes them the darlings of the ultra-right-wingers, like you.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2014, 02:13:06 PM »

In any case, all the information available suggests an attack of pro-government vigilantes on a peaceful opposition demonstration.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2014, 05:06:19 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2014, 05:08:35 PM by ag »

In any case, all the information available suggests an attack of pro-government vigilantes on a peaceful opposition demonstration.

Which is why the demonstrators shot back? This is obviously the precursor to another coup, and if not that then it clearly disproves the veil of "peaceful protest against teh evul socialists!!!!1!"

The rest of your propaganda isn't worth responding to of course.

If you bothered to read anything beyond the government statements (I know, going beyond government propaganda would be treason to your fascist ideals, but I could always hope), you would know that a) the demonstrations themselves are fairly small (by recent standards) and not even encouraged by many of the opposition leaders (e.g. Capriles) who think that the timing is wrong for major protests, coming in a fairly quite period politically, and b) that this is far from the first time that demonstrators have been attacked by the government thugs. That among the protesters there may have been someone armed and that that person may have shot in response (could be true, though not proven at that point) is not at all indicative of an attempted coup. What the whole brouhaha seems to be indicative of is that the government might be considering using the attack on the demonstrations by its own goons as a pretext for further limiting, if not destroying the still surviving democratic institutions in Venezuela. Which, naturally, for such a fascist sympathizer as yourself, would not be much regrettable.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2014, 09:28:11 PM »

Things seem to be very nasty. Government goons are barging into residential neighborhoods and homes, apparently. Nobody pays any attention - unlike Ukraine, Venezuela will not a WWIII start, - but it is getting very bad.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2014, 12:55:06 AM »
« Edited: February 26, 2014, 12:56:56 AM by ag »


Blatant fascist propaganda, compounding lies and baseless statements that are asserted as self-evident truth. If this is common in your circles, then, I guess, Venezuelan situation is restoring fascism to its pre-Mussolini place on the international left.

I particularly liked the media being with the opposition. That in a country, where you canīt even get paper to print your news without the governmentīs explicit authorization.
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