Israel's BFF calls American Jews "disloyal"

[Landslide Lyndon]

Yeah, no surprise here.

https://twitter.com/Jordanfabian/status/1163887022504906752

[Pyro]

Antisemitism 101

[Hindsight was 2020]

Of course he did

[Person Man]

You can be both a Zionist and an antisemite.

[Horus]

You can be both a Zionist and an antisemite.

These days most antisemites are Zionists.

[ProudModerate2]

Putin/Russia interfered with our election by creating animosities and stirring-up problems in the US via race/nationalities/etc.
And as a bonus, the also got an Orange Bastard in The Office who continues to destroy our nation using the same tactics.

Russia  2
USA  0

[Pheurton Skeurto]

You can be both a Zionist and an antisemite.

see: Spencer, Richard

[Joe Biden 2024]

Anyone think the right will condemn these anti-Semitic remarks?

Yeah, me neither.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

American Jews like Wellstone and Feingold are liberal. Israel has as its law, every male have to serve in military. Jewish males dont have to serve in American; anti war Jews are a result

[Hammy]

https://i.imgur.com/a2W4RFG.png He effectively called them stupid traitors. But remember, "Christians" loyal to a foreign state are the only ones allowed to decide what's antisemitic!

[The Arizonan]

Does anyone remember the last time a dictatorial person accused Jewish people of being disloyal to the state?

[MasterJedi]

You can be both a Zionist and an antisemite.

Most of those evangelicals don't like the Jews and think they'll all burn in hell, they just need them for their end of days prophecy so they'll support them just for that.

[Ashley Biden's Diary]

Remember last year he referred to Netanyahu as "your" PM to a group of Jews.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Anyone from Atlas Blue want to chime in?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Anyone from Atlas Blue want to chime in?

I'm sure Fuzzy will drop by and ask us to condemn some long dead Muslim cleric or else we are a bunch of leftie antisemites.

[Fuzzy Bear]

You can be both a Zionist and an antisemite.

Most of those evangelicals don't like the Jews and think they'll all burn in hell, they just need them for their end of days prophecy so they'll support them just for that.

But, of course, you don't know that.  It's just a line you post.

As for the earlier quote, that's pretty hard to accomplish.  

As for Trump's comments, they were graceless, and probably not helpful all around.  But American Jews are, from my vantage point, going through the process that Evangelical Christians have gone through in the political arena.

Once upon a time, it didn't matter a lot, from a religious perspective which major political party you identified with.  Indeed, the first "Born Again" President was Jimmy Carter, a Democrat, and Evangelical Christians were as likely to identify as Democrats as they would identify as Republicans.  Initially, the criticisms were of policy; on issues such as abortion.  Over time, however, the contempt the Democratic Party exudes toward Evangelicals is unmistakable.  Evangelical Christians are viewed as a problem, and as a group that should be viewed with contempt.  I"m not going to go on and on with examples of rhetoric (although I will if people wish to actually contest this point), but Evangelicals are now pretty much considered "the ememy" by Democrats.  They are openly disparaged by Democratic candidates, and Democratic candidates propose all sorts of policy initiatives that seek to marginalize Evangelical Christian presence in public life and in the public square.

When I was a Democratic activist in the 1970s and 1980s, the Democratic Party was, by and large, the party of Jewish voters.  Not on the level that, say, black or Hispanic voters are today, but very much moreso than Italian-American voters or even Irish-American voters and Catholic voters in general (who have been trending to the GOP beginning in the Eisenhower years).  The thought that Democratic pols would be supportive of a boycott of Israel was nonsense; this was advocated by only a few outliers (e. g. Sen. James Abouresk of South Dakota, a Democrat who lasted only one term).  

Jewish voters today are often more culturally liberal than Evangelicals, and their ties to the Democratic Party have been due, in no small measure, to the Democrats' historical opposition to anti-Semitism.  So I find it hard to believe that the increasing prominence, not only from "The Squad" (they'll be a non-issue two years from now), but from other "mainstream" Democratic politicians who have given aid and comfort to the anti-Semitic elements of their party isn't a shock to the system for a lot of Jewish Democrats, including some who are clearly in the liberal camp.  You can't stand with David Ben Gurion and the Grand Mufti at the same time.  You cannot stand with the Jewish people of Israel and support boycotting their nation economically.  Trump's comment is off base.  But I do predict that Jewish Democrats, who have, in many states, been a loyal part of their base, have legitimate justification of asking "Where's the love?" and receiving a meaningful answer.  And some blather about loving Jews but hating Bibi, AIPAC, etc. isn't going to cut it.

[Comrade Funk]

Anyone from Atlas Blue want to chime in?

I'm sure Fuzzy will drop by and ask us to condemn some long dead Muslim cleric or else we are a bunch of leftie antisemites.

Right on time

You can't stand with David Ben Gurion and the Grand Mufti at the same time.  You cannot stand with the Jewish people of Israel and support boycotting their nation economically.  Trump's comment is off base.  But I do predict that Jewish Democrats, who have, in many states, been a loyal part of their base, have legitimate justification of asking "Where's the love?" and receiving a meaningful answer.  And some blather about loving Jews but hating Bibi, AIPAC, etc. isn't going to cut it.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Anyone from Atlas Blue want to chime in?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Anyone from Atlas Blue want to chime in?

I'm sure Fuzzy will drop by and ask us to condemn some long dead Muslim cleric or else we are a bunch of leftie antisemites.

Right on time

You can't stand with David Ben Gurion and the Grand Mufti at the same time.  You cannot stand with the Jewish people of Israel and support boycotting their nation economically.  Trump's comment is off base.  But I do predict that Jewish Democrats, who have, in many states, been a loyal part of their base, have legitimate justification of asking "Where's the love?" and receiving a meaningful answer.  And some blather about loving Jews but hating Bibi, AIPAC, etc. isn't going to cut it.

I'll now accept my accolades.

[Storr]

Obviously these statements are anti-semitic, as are some things Omar and Talib have said. But, being that ~75% of Jewish people voted for Hilary in 2016, this is probably about Trump trying to satisfy his ego or rationalize to himself as to why he "lost" the Jewish vote.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyone from Atlas Blue want to chime in?

Trump is obviously a terrible person

[Progressive Pessimist]

Republicans can go f*** themselves. They constantly harp about Omar or Tlaib using antisemitic tropes and then use some themselves, as always it's a double standard. Do they really think this will make the vast majority of Jews, who already consistently vote Democratic, be more inclined to cross over? Jews see through this rhetoric. Republicans don't care about us, they only care about satisfying their evangelical dominionist base. If it wasn't a fantasy all along and Jesus were ever to return, they would stop even pretending to care.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Fuzzy is a hypocrite for asking me, A PALESTINIAN to condemn a religious leader long dead, but yet won't condemn Trump's comments about Jews today. I'm pretty sure he's ONLY asking me to because I'm Palestinian

[Horus]

Fuzzy is a hypocrite for asking me, A PALESTINIAN to condemn a religious leader long dead, but yet won't condemn Trump's comments about Jews today. I'm pretty sure he's ONLY asking me to because I'm Palestinian

Because he's giddy with excitement to see all the Jews die in the "end times."

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

 You can't stand with David Ben Gurion and the Grand Mufti at the same time.  

Or either one at all as they're both long dead.

And most American Jews don't even care that much about Israel.