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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« on: December 25, 2016, 05:30:00 PM »

She didn't do anything wrong. Her 3 million vote win loss was just a weird geographic fluke.

The last thing the party needs to do is grossly overreact.

When you lose three large states considered a solid part of your firewall, and that voted Democratic since 1988 or 1992, you must've done something wrong. When you're losing the race you were suppoused to win in a walk to a candidate labeled as unelectable, you must've done something wrong.

But you can keep ignoring all the reasons Clinton lost if it makes you feel better about yourself. But don't be surprised later.

Literally the dumbest thing Democrats can do at this point is "oh well, just a weird fluke, we did nothing wrong, carry on Smiley"
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 05:33:49 PM »

"White males are irrelevant, electorally-wise. All we need is a high turnout among minorities to win comfortably."

"PA, MI and WI are titanium D states. We can't lose them, so let's redirect our efforts to AZ or MS. SWEATING LIKE A DOG!"

"Massive minority turnout? It's as guaranteed as a sunrise."

"There's a dissatisfaction in the society? LOL, Obama has high approvals, idiot."

"Hillary's unpopular? But she had high approvals as SoS!"


To be brief, that what happens when you're blindly overconfident.
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 07:46:20 AM »


See, but Hillary did not lose. She won. More people voted for her than for Trump.

So let's get it straight. It's the outdated electoral college gig that needs to get the heave-ho. Hillary was a much more respectable candidate than Trump could ever hope to be. And she won.

It's the Republicans who think they have some sort of "mandate" or whatever. They're the ones who need to do a reality check.



Can we PLEASE stop with this "she won the popular vote" crap. Neither candidate was campaigning to win the popular vote; they were campaigning in swing states in order to win the electoral college.

It's not a fair argument.

Yes, I don't like the electoral college as much as the next guy, but these are constitutional rules in play. You don't get to change the rules in the middle of a play or reject those you don't like, especially after the fact.

Hillary ran to win a majority in the electoral college and she failed.

Now, should we have a serious discussion about doing away with the electoral college? Yes. Is this a valid argument in favor of institution a popular vote system? Absolutely. But let's not get distracted from why Trump is going to be the next President not her.

Following 2000 a lot of people adopted "lol, it's just a fluke, we did nothing wrong and we don't have to do our own autopsy" attitude, ignoring all other factors that allowed Bush to win. Well, it was a mistake.

Kindly, get over with your grieving process.
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