"Crazy Bernie" to introduce socialized medicine bill

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Yea Medicare for all is supported by most Americans so I really don't see how this is controversial or crazy as some right wing hacks call it. Republicans hate it because their donors tell them no and more than half the democrats have the same donors as well. Catch up you guys, every other civilized country basically has this. History will not be kind to people openly opposing this.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

The argument about how it's too expensive is a faulty argument which most Americans would disagree with (and do). You have a +$600 billion budget in defense but you don't have enough to cover all Americans so they can actually see a doctor when they need to and not worry about the costs? People are seeing through the BS and they want what every other civilized nation on the planet has.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Typical... instead of actual debate, ad hominem attacks.  I never claimed I was personally successful, nor do I care if some random person on the internet thinks so.  I find it amusing that you vilify me for being greedy yet won't even answer how much you donated to charity.  This "debate" is not worth my time.

You seem not to understand how proportions work.  You haven't told anyone how much you donate to charity either, but you are complaining about an extra $3,000 in taxes so that people don't die from preventable diseases.  I guess if you hadn't paid that extra $3k, it would all be going to charity?  Is that what you're so upset about?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I think you should really donate 95% of your income to people who are starving in Africa because they need it more than you need it.  Anything less would be non-progressive.

Jesus you really are shortminded.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Alright, NSV has to a troll and/or a parody at this point. Credit to Ebowed for actually maintaining a rational argument though. On another note:

The argument about how it's too expensive is a faulty argument which most Americans would disagree with (and do). You have a +$600 billion budget in defense but you don't have enough to cover all Americans so they can actually see a doctor when they need to and not worry about the costs? People are seeing through the BS and they want what every other civilized nation on the planet has.

Moral sloganeering is the easy part. Nobody cares about the defense budget when they think about their healthcare costs, even if they should.

What was his credible argument?  That he deserves free health care?  It was hard to find in between all his personal insults.

I honestly don't blame him for insulting you. You speak in arrogance stating that how dare the little man get the same coverage as you. Seems that it's you who is the selfish one. Everyone deserves free healthcare it's your HEALTH. If you don't care about people's coverage to health it's shows how despicable of a character you are.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Alright, NSV has to a troll and/or a parody at this point. Credit to Ebowed for actually maintaining a rational argument though. On another note:

The argument about how it's too expensive is a faulty argument which most Americans would disagree with (and do). You have a +$600 billion budget in defense but you don't have enough to cover all Americans so they can actually see a doctor when they need to and not worry about the costs? People are seeing through the BS and they want what every other civilized nation on the planet has.

Moral sloganeering is the easy part. Nobody cares about the defense budget when they think about their healthcare costs, even if they should.

What was his credible argument?  That he deserves free health care?  It was hard to find in between all his personal insults.

I honestly don't blame him for insulting you. You speak in arrogance stating that how dare the little man get the same coverage as you. Seems that it's you who is the selfish one. Everyone deserves free healthcare it's your HEALTH. If you don't care about people's coverage to health it's shows how despicable of a character you are.

I, like the majority of people in this country, support each person being entitled to pay for their own health care unless they suffer from some medical disorder that makes it impossible for them to work.  Like the majority of this country, I do not support socialized medicine.  I am unapologetic about the fact that I do not want to pay for your health care.

Your wrong and you need to find polls to back this up. Even when the question is framed as government being in control of Health care 60% of America still supports it. I bet that number is even higher in Virginia. It seems that you are delusional that Medicare and Social Security is... Socialism. Using isims' to scare voters is a right wing tactic, go ahead and change your avatar to blue.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Geez NSV is still rambling about not covering people? Must be a slow night for him...

[ProgressiveCanadian]

I dispute that socialism is a bad thing.

Yes, so does 90% of this board.

SOCIALIST FORUM TAKEOVER!!! IT HAS HAPPENED!!!