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Erich Maria Remarque
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« on: August 27, 2016, 08:50:22 AM »

As I said:
There's no way Shy Trump effect exists Grin
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2016, 09:44:22 AM »

Trump himself said Hillary is the co-founder of ISIS. The facts don't matter anymore.
But it's true. The whole establishment is responsible for rise of ISIS (Middle East politics). Each of them Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2016, 01:22:11 PM »

JUST LIKE HITLER, Bush and Clinton was responsible for "trenches of thousands and thousands of dead bodies", and if Trump Hillary got elected, his death toll might be even higher.
Fixed it! Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2016, 05:57:50 AM »

The question isn't whether the Trump/ISIS team will destroy America.

No; America will defeat ISIS and Trump.

But first, the Trump/ISIS coalition has to be stopped.

We know that the Nazis support Trump/ISIS.  That's why America will stand firm against Trump/ISIS.

America will defeat the Nazis once again by firmly and decisively rejecting Trump/ISIS.
Take a deep breath Grin


It is a classified DIA report, August 2012. FBI [and of course Obama] knew the consequences of their politics.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/

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ISIS indeed is a biproduct of USA's/Bush's/Obama's politics in the Middle East.

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Not just that, this [rise of ISIS] was exactly what they wanted. But it got out control.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2016, 09:23:50 AM »

There are legitimate comparisons that can be made between Trump and Hitler, more so between Trump and Mussolini.
I really do hope that mainstream media will listen to you. Because those comparisons are so dumb that it would help Trump's narrative about corrupt system (media is a part of it) Smiley

On the other hand, I don't believe that media are so dumb as red hacks here Sad
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2016, 10:22:40 AM »

There are legitimate comparisons that can be made between Trump and Hitler, more so between Trump and Mussolini.
I really do hope that mainstream media will listen to you. Because those comparisons are so dumb that it would help Trump's narrative about corrupt system (media is a part of it) Smiley

On the other hand, I don't believe that media are so dumb as red hacks here Sad

Please tell me how you can't see any comparisons between Trump/Hitler/Mussolini, and I'll give you a gold star.
So why have media been hiding it? Sad

There are no "projective" comparisons between them.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2016, 11:03:06 AM »


Why in the hell do media hide it from the average voters?! Sad
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 05:11:15 PM »

^^^Sigh^^^
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 06:11:15 PM »

     I'm not really a fan of Trump, but the insanity of comparing him to Hitler makes me facepalm.
They do all they can to help Trump Smiley

In Sweden media/Dems tried to use the same tactics against Trumpish party.

What did they accomplish? Well, voters didn't like when they was indirectly called/compared to racists/nazis/fascists. It solidified and energized those who already vote for Trumpish party. It pissed also off those voters, who share similar stands on immigration and Islam issues, but were undecided/didn't like image(fact that some supporters of this party were indeed racists, for instance), and drove those to Trumpish party Smiley

So Trumpish party just accepted it and was being grateful. (Bara tacka och ta emot in Swedish).
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 07:05:45 PM »

     I'm not really a fan of Trump, but the insanity of comparing him to Hitler makes me facepalm.
They do all they can to help Trump Smiley

In Sweden media/Dems tried to use the same tactics against Trumpish party.

What did they accomplish? Well, voters didn't like when they was indirectly called/compared to racists/nazis/fascists. It solidified and energized those who already vote for Trumpish party. It pissed also off those voters, who share similar stands on immigration and Islam issues, but were undecided/didn't like image(fact that some supporters of this party were indeed racists, for instance), and drove those to Trumpish party Smiley

So Trumpish party just accepted it and was being grateful. (Bara tacka och ta emot in Swedish).
Only one prob elm, the Sweden Democrats have much more intelligence and tact than Trump.
Basically people who thought it was OK to be a little racist began to feel sorry for people who were really racist and thought the left/center-left way trying to make them feel bad about the way they feel a little? 
Ehm, what?


How much of Trump supporters are racists?
He is doint worse than Romney among college-educated whites, but he will probably anyway get 40%.
He probably will also win among Whites. Is a majority of Whites racist?
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 07:09:23 PM »

    I'm not really a fan of Trump, but the insanity of comparing him to Hitler makes me facepalm.
They do all they can to help Trump Smiley

In Sweden media/Dems tried to use the same tactics against Trumpish party.

What did they accomplish? Well, voters didn't like when they was indirectly called/compared to racists/nazis/fascists. It solidified and energized those who already vote for Trumpish party. It pissed also off those voters, who share similar stands on immigration and Islam issues, but were undecided/didn't like image(fact that some supporters of this party were indeed racists, for instance), and drove those to Trumpish party Smiley

So Trumpish party just accepted it and was being grateful. (Bara tacka och ta emot in Swedish).
Only one problem, the Sweden Democrats have much more intelligence and tact than Trump.
Don't know. The only really REALLY dumb thing he've done was his attack against Megyn Kelly/Cruz' wife. By doing it he ruined his chances among women. If it was not this, he'd be leading, probably a lot Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2016, 07:36:12 PM »

    I'm not really a fan of Trump, but the insanity of comparing him to Hitler makes me facepalm.
They do all they can to help Trump Smiley

In Sweden media/Dems tried to use the same tactics against Trumpish party.

What did they accomplish? Well, voters didn't like when they was indirectly called/compared to racists/nazis/fascists. It solidified and energized those who already vote for Trumpish party. It pissed also off those voters, who share similar stands on immigration and Islam issues, but were undecided/didn't like image(fact that some supporters of this party were indeed racists, for instance), and drove those to Trumpish party Smiley

So Trumpish party just accepted it and was being grateful. (Bara tacka och ta emot in Swedish).
Only one problem, the Sweden Democrats have much more intelligence and tact than Trump.
Don't know. The only really REALLY dumb thing he've done was his attack against Megyn Kelly/Cruz' wife. By doing it he ruined his chances among women. If it was not this, he'd be leading, probably a lot
You should stick to Sweden.
What's wrong? Trump's margin among men is [much? +12 in recent PEW] than Romney's. And what would happen, if Trump wasn't offensive towars women, but othervise had exactly the same rethoric? Would his number among men be worse? Not att all, probably slightly better. Among women? At least slightly better, probably he'd get 3-4 extra.
Am I so wrong?
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2016, 07:43:23 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2016, 07:45:27 PM by LittleBigPlanet »

    I'm not really a fan of Trump, but the insanity of comparing him to Hitler makes me facepalm.
They do all they can to help Trump Smiley

In Sweden media/Dems tried to use the same tactics against Trumpish party.

What did they accomplish? Well, voters didn't like when they was indirectly called/compared to racists/nazis/fascists. It solidified and energized those who already vote for Trumpish party. It pissed also off those voters, who share similar stands on immigration and Islam issues, but were undecided/didn't like image(fact that some supporters of this party were indeed racists, for instance), and drove those to Trumpish party Smiley

So Trumpish party just accepted it and was being grateful. (Bara tacka och ta emot in Swedish).

There is a difference between believing that the comparison is persuasive to undecided voters and believing that it is valid in important ways.

I think it would be a poor choice of strategy for anyone interested in convincing someone not to vote for Trump, but I also think that you can't really understand this election very  well without recognizing meaningful parallels between Trump's charismatic, nationalistic right-populism and the politically successful and unsuccessful fascisms that emerged from dysfunctional European and American democracies in the early-to-mid twentieth century - which include Weimar Germany.
There are none parallels that matter. In my opinion.

Stalin's politics had nothing to do with charismatic, nationalistic right-populism, he was pretty "presidential", "part of establishment", "had experience" etc, but result was quite the same.

When red hacks compare Trump to Hitler, they imply that "the other stuff" comes as well. That is not true and is dumb. In my opinion.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2016, 07:44:25 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2016, 12:30:10 AM »

Stalin's politics had nothing to do with charismatic, nationalistic right-populism, he was pretty "presidential", "part of establishment", "had experience" etc, but result was quite the same.

Huh

Words literally fail me.
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2016, 01:28:34 AM »

To say that Trump is an American version of Hitler isn't exactly appropriate, even though there are some similarities between the two. On the other hand, comparing Trump's most rabid supporters to 1930s Hitler supporters is a perfectly fair comparison.
Fair enough! Smiley
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