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« on: May 01, 2024, 11:40:40 AM »
« edited: May 01, 2024, 11:46:03 AM by 2016 »

Data backs that up!

On May 1st 2020 then Candidate Joe Biden led Donald Trump by an Average of 5.3 Percentage Points Nationally (According to RealClearPolitics now RealClearPolling).

Four years later former President Trump leads President Biden by an Average of 1.5 Percentage Points.
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2024, 11:48:54 AM »

Due to fact we still live in a Covid , not Lockdown Environment and inflation and voters think the Prez has a magic button to get rid of both but Trump in various polls isn't leading Biden. We already know it's gonna come down to WI, MI and PA

Biden did promise to end Covid but it's a virus no cure for VIRUSES
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2024, 01:26:10 PM »

I mean, it makes sense, even if I'm not happy about it. Most voters have forgotten about COVID, which is just like forgetting about deadly mass shootings, just on a much larger scale. People have forgotten how much of a disaster Trump's first term was, and don't realize that there's every indication his second term will be far worse.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2024, 02:08:09 PM »

I mean, it makes sense, even if I'm not happy about it. Most voters have forgotten about COVID, which is just like forgetting about deadly mass shootings, just on a much larger scale. People have forgotten how much of a disaster Trump's first term was, and don't realize that there's every indication his second term will be far worse.
According to 538 Bidens JA has a net negative of -17. If that's the same at the end of June/beginning of July Biden is in serious trouble.



And if you look at Historical Trends here Pres Biden is already headed for Defeat.

Republicans have labelled Biden the 2nd coming of Jimmy Carter and it's hard to argue against that for now given these sort of Numbers.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2024, 02:10:23 PM »

No election is like the previous. That's barely a take at all.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2024, 02:18:51 PM »

I definitely this currently Biden is struggling. But a lot can happen in 6 months.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2024, 07:18:42 PM »

More Data...



So Biden was leading in States like Georgia & North Carolina by a fair amount heading into the Summer of Riots (BLM, George Floyd, Jacob Blake) in 2020 now these States have flipped by almost 10 Percentage Points on Average.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2024, 07:38:13 PM »
« Edited: May 01, 2024, 07:44:20 PM by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers »

Lol it's inflation but we haven't voted yet NV always has an R bias and Harris is a poor Veep that's why she may not be nominated in 28

Harris had sky high Approvals in 20, it's not all Biden fault it's Harris too

Where are Bruce Joel and Solid defenders of Harris

2016 said the Rs were gonna sweep NV in 22 and polls showed the same thing in NV too in 22

Lombardo won because he is pro choice and will certainly win again in 26 he is as moderate as Sandoval Laxalt was a Maga R he lost in NV

All Ds need is NV, NH, VA and MI, PA and WI that's 278

NC, GA is wave insurance and Lake is Done in AZ, Trump isn't gonna win AZ if Lake loses
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2024, 08:32:16 PM »

I mean, it makes sense, even if I'm not happy about it. Most voters have forgotten about COVID, which is just like forgetting about deadly mass shootings, just on a much larger scale. People have forgotten how much of a disaster Trump's first term was, and don't realize that there's every indication his second term will be far worse.
According to 538 Bidens JA has a net negative of -17. If that's the same at the end of June/beginning of July Biden is in serious trouble.



And if you look at Historical Trends here Pres Biden is already headed for Defeat.

Republicans have labelled Biden the 2nd coming of Jimmy Carter and it's hard to argue against that for now given these sort of Numbers.

All the pre-Obama numbers (at a minimum) are garbage when judging the present-day United States. American politics used to take place in a world where supporters of both parties could and did publicly approve of politicians from the other party if they liked them. In the post-Trump era, Republicans would not give favorable approval ratings to Jesus H. Christ himself, unless he had an (R) after his name and licked Trump's feet the way the rest of their "leaders" do.

That said, in 2020, Donald Trump was a not a traitor ineligible for office, and the GOP had not successfully overturned Roe via the illegitimate Roberts Court.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2024, 08:54:06 PM »
« Edited: May 01, 2024, 08:59:30 PM by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers »

It's nothing we can do we just have to wait til we vote but Trump isn't gonna win NV by 8 pts or AZ by 6 or NC by 10 all bias in the MC poll

2016 is still playing both sides he sports a red avatar but on the other hand he is still talking R talking pts.

But as I have said many times it's a gamble running Harris as Veep again. In 20, she was sky high in Approvals when she was selected just like Pence and she has low Approvals now, Rs like to talk Biden low Approval, he is WC Harris is a blk female. Alsobrooks and Abrams have higher Approvals than Harris that's why they will be leading contenders if Alsobrooks gets the S for Veep

Do you Rs know what gamble is it's a risk, but all Biden needs is 278 NV, NH, WI, PA and MI even with Harris low Approvals he can win that
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2024, 12:39:37 AM »

I mean, it makes sense, even if I'm not happy about it. Most voters have forgotten about COVID, which is just like forgetting about deadly mass shootings, just on a much larger scale. People have forgotten how much of a disaster Trump's first term was, and don't realize that there's every indication his second term will be far worse.
According to 538 Bidens JA has a net negative of -17. If that's the same at the end of June/beginning of July Biden is in serious trouble.


And if you look at Historical Trends here Pres Biden is already headed for Defeat.

Republicans have labelled Biden the 2nd coming of Jimmy Carter and it's hard to argue against that for now given these sort of Numbers.

All the pre-Obama numbers (at a minimum) are garbage when judging the present-day United States. American politics used to take place in a world where supporters of both parties could and did publicly approve of politicians from the other party if they liked them. In the post-Trump era, Republicans would not give favorable approval ratings to Jesus H. Christ himself, unless he had an (R) after his name and licked Trump's feet the way the rest of their "leaders" do.

That said, in 2020, Donald Trump was a not a traitor ineligible for office, and the GOP had not successfully overturned Roe via the illegitimate Roberts Court.
Well according to polling Trump is MORE popular now than in 2020, so if you want to make a case on Biden winning, Trump's unpopularity is not it.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2024, 02:50:28 AM »

I mean, it makes sense, even if I'm not happy about it. Most voters have forgotten about COVID, which is just like forgetting about deadly mass shootings, just on a much larger scale. People have forgotten how much of a disaster Trump's first term was, and don't realize that there's every indication his second term will be far worse.
According to 538 Bidens JA has a net negative of -17. If that's the same at the end of June/beginning of July Biden is in serious trouble.


And if you look at Historical Trends here Pres Biden is already headed for Defeat.

Republicans have labelled Biden the 2nd coming of Jimmy Carter and it's hard to argue against that for now given these sort of Numbers.

All the pre-Obama numbers (at a minimum) are garbage when judging the present-day United States. American politics used to take place in a world where supporters of both parties could and did publicly approve of politicians from the other party if they liked them. In the post-Trump era, Republicans would not give favorable approval ratings to Jesus H. Christ himself, unless he had an (R) after his name and licked Trump's feet the way the rest of their "leaders" do.

That said, in 2020, Donald Trump was a not a traitor ineligible for office, and the GOP had not successfully overturned Roe via the illegitimate Roberts Court.
Well according to polling Trump is MORE popular now than in 2020, so if you want to make a case on Biden winning, Trump's unpopularity is not it.


We haven't voted yet yeah we should take MC seriously that has Trump up 10 in NC and +8 in NV, Trump won't win those states by those margins
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2024, 03:09:29 AM »


it will be very hard but Biden can still recover. A good performance in debates could convince Americans that he is still fit for the job.


As for trump, he managed covid rather well and left a good memory from an economic point of view (inflation, unemployment,...)
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2024, 04:36:11 AM »

People here are just in denial mode or too emotionally invested.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2024, 05:14:06 AM »

People here are just in denial mode or too emotionally invested.


No one is in denial mode until we voted
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2024, 05:34:59 AM »

Has nobody else pointed out that this thread title is deceptive, in that it looks as though the OP has generously given us an extract from an article on the internet called "Opinion: Why 2024 will be different then 2020" when he has in fact done nothing of the sort?
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2024, 01:34:25 PM »

it will be very hard but Biden can still recover. A good performance in debates could convince Americans that he is still fit for the job.


As for trump, he managed covid rather well and left a good memory from an economic point of view (inflation, unemployment,...)

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