Liberals Ready to Abandon Abortion as an Issue

[A18]

They also support a partial-birth abortion ban, which the courts have struck down, by a 2 to 1 margin.

[Smash255]

They also support a partial-birth abortion ban, which the courts have struck down, by a 2 to 1 margin.

Didn't the court strike in down due to not having an exemption for the mother's health??

While most are against PBA, most feel their should at least be an exemption for the health of the mother

[A18]

Next, do you favor or oppose each of the following proposals. How about -- A law which would make it ILLEGAL to perform a specific abortion procedure conducted in the last six months of pregnancy known as a "partial birth abortion," except in cases necessary to save the life of the mother?

Favor (69.81%), Oppose (25.55%), Don't know (3.84%), Refused (0.80%)

[Smash255]

Americans may want Roe v. Wade to stay in place, but very few want all abortions, or even nearly all abortions to be legal, as many Democrats pushed.  And, nearly all Americans at least to some extent would like to see the abortion rate drop.  The satanist NARAL groups and such seem to actually like slaughtering babies, and as long as they are a force in the Democratic Party we will lose.  I'm not saying the public leans right on abortion, but I am saying the Republicans are closer to where the public is.

 CBS News/New York Times Poll. Feb. 24-28, 2005. N=1,111 adults nationwide. MoE ±  3.
                  

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"Regardless of how you usually vote, which party comes closer to sharing your view on abortion: the Democratic Party or the Republican Party?"

Democratic Party 45%,  Republican Party 35%

[TheresNoMoney]

Americans may want Roe v. Wade to stay in place, but very few want all abortions, or even nearly all abortions to be legal, as many Democrats pushed.

I believe in parental notification and no abortions after 4 months. I think my views are pretty mainstream on this issue.

And, nearly all Americans at least to some extent would like to see the abortion rate drop. 

Exactly why Senator Reid wrote the First Prevention Act, which would help cut the number of abortions in half. This bill is also supported by all Democrats in the Senate.

Unfortunatley, the Republicans won't let the bill get to the floor.

[A18]

That would be the Prevention First Act, and since it's just welfare for women who want to have sex, obviously Democrats are all for it.

[bullmoose88]

Democrats, get ready to kiss your suburban voters goodbye.

Bingo Bobwater

[A18]

Democrats, get ready to kiss your suburban voters goodbye.

Bingo Bobwater

Yeah. Even Bullmoose might start voting Republican.

[bullmoose88]

Democrats, get ready to kiss your suburban voters goodbye.

Bingo Bobwater

Yeah. Even Bullmoose might start voting Republican.

Which I've done except for 3 races...since I've been able to vote.

[bullmoose88]

Odd thing is...push came to shove on abortion...I'm pro life.

But its not really an issue I focus my time and energy on.

[Lincoln Republican]

The radical screaming raving looney wacko leftist pro abortion on demand femi nazis in the Democratic party would never allow such a proposal to even be debated let alone countenance a change in the Dem platform on the abortion issue.  Most of them even support partial birth abortions, which is another name for baby killing.

I guess your calling Rudy Giuliani a baby killer.  Te debate over the PBA had to do with their not being an exception for the health of the mother

Regardless of how the proponents of abortion at any cost try to spin this matter, the fact is, partial birth abortion is truly a heinous, barbaric, cruel, evil and inhuman practice.  The baby is dragged out of the birth canal by the leg except for the head, then an expandable instrument is inserted into the baby's head and the baby's brains are sucked out.

A baby's life is precious, and should be respected and treated as such.

It would be very, very, very rare that a PBA would be a procedure that would be necessary to perform, perhaps not necessary at all.

PBA is literally the killing of innocent babies, and should be banned.

Any politician who supports or condones this slaughter of innocent, helpless infants is not someone I want in any position of power at any level.

[Emsworth]

Regardless of how the proponents of abortion at any cost try to spin this matter, the fact is, partial birth abortion is truly a heinous, barbaric, curel, evil and inhuman practice.

That doesn't make it illegal.

[A18]

Regardless of how the proponents of abortion at any cost try to spin this matter, the fact is, partial birth abortion is truly a heinous, barbaric, curel, evil and inhuman practice.

That doesn't make it illegal.

No one said it did. What are you getting at? He's giving a reason for why it should be illegal in his opinion.

[opebo]

Winfield, why don't you mind your own business?

I don't get all bent out of shape if you remove your spleen or some such part.

[Defarge]

I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.  Yes, it has lost us votes.  Yes, it may have even lost us the presidential election.  But I firmly believe that the right to choose should remain one of the tenets of the Democratic Party.

Except for partial birth abortion, unless in the case of saving the mother's life.  Abortion is fine with me until the third trimester, then I imagine how I feel right now even thinking about it is similar to how Republicans feel about abortion in general.

[A18]

I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.

That's fine. Just quit trying to pack the courts.

[Lincoln Republican]

Winfield, why don't you mind your own business?

I don't get all bent out of shape if you remove your spleen or some such part.

I beg your pardon?  My own business?

I, or anyone else, can express themselves on this issue, or any other as they see fit, thank you very much.

And your comparison of a "spleen or some such part" to a helpless infant is, to say the least, in extremely bad taste. 

[Defarge]

I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.

That's fine. Just quit trying to pack the courts.

Pack the courts? We're the ones trying to pack the courts?

[??????????]

Their is a much bigger difference between mostly legal and mostly illegal.

Legally perhaps. Morally... no. Not really. See... that's the problem with the abortion debate; been mentioned by several posters before that there's really *two* debates going on.

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Bottom line is that the overwhelming majority of Americans are moderate on the abortion issue

Americans feel the courts should keep abortion legal by greater than a 2-1 margin

Overturning Roe v Wade would not technically make abortion illegal.

[jokerman]

Regardless of how the proponents of abortion at any cost try to spin this matter, the fact is, partial birth abortion is truly a heinous, barbaric, curel, evil and inhuman practice.

That doesn't make it illegal.

Err....,what?  Seems justification to me.  A Government must be lead by people who not only have a sense of right and wrong but must be able to carry them out.  If seperation of church and state is your argument -it's not even in the constitution.  It's just some crap Jefferson wrote in a letter.  Damn, I don't know why StatesRights like him so much, -the fuel he's given the secular movement by those words.

[opebo]

Winfield, why don't you mind your own business?

I don't get all bent out of shape if you remove your spleen or some such part.

I beg your pardon?  My own business?

I, or anyone else, can express themselves on this issue, or any other as they see fit, thank you very much.

And your comparison of a "spleen or some such part" to a helpless infant is, to say the least, in extremely bad taste. 

The point is you are proposing interference in someone elses internal organs.  Talk about intrusive government!

Couldn't possibly have any bearing on you.

[A18]

I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.

That's fine. Just quit trying to pack the courts.

Pack the courts? We're the ones trying to pack the courts?

Putting people on the judiciary to legislate from the bench is definitely packing the courts.

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I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.

That's fine. Just quit trying to pack the courts.

Pack the courts? We're the ones trying to pack the courts?

Putting people on the judiciary to legislate from the bench is definitely packing the courts.

I agree, we don't need any more activist conservatives.

[Smash255]

I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.

That's fine. Just quit trying to pack the courts.

Pack the courts? We're the ones trying to pack the courts?

Putting people on the judiciary to legislate from the bench is definitely packing the courts.

You mean the same way that many in the GOP were whining about the court not getting involved & not legislating from the bench in the whole Schiavo matter

[A18]

I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.

That's fine. Just quit trying to pack the courts.

Pack the courts? We're the ones trying to pack the courts?

Putting people on the judiciary to legislate from the bench is definitely packing the courts.

You mean the same way that many in the GOP were whining about the court not getting involved & not legislating from the bench in the whole Schiavo matter

1. I never supported that.
2. The Congress passed a law... upholding it is not 'legislating from the bench'