The National Weekly Atlasian

[afleitch]

District 3 is probably a tossup. This race is likely to be focused on two main issues: AIDS and Africa. Both incumbent PBrunsel and challenger Afleitch find there issues to be very important, bt they have different solutions for them. I give the slighest edge to PBrunsel, due to his popularity.

I beg to differ.

AIDS is an important issue, but the other main issue is poverty. The difference being I am concentrating on poverty in Atlasia, not Africa.

[afleitch]

It would have been nice if other candidates were able to make their case and be ranked according to these criteria

EDIT: To be a wee bit clearer, I wanted to ask how can you endorse one candidate, over another when you don't investigate the stances of his opponent? You can, correctly state that PBrunsel scores highly against other sitting Senators based on these findings, but you can't say he scores higher than his opponent and is therefore more worthy of an endorsement in that race than I would be, without looking at his opponents positions.

I don't mind who you endorse in any race, including my own. But you have to admit you've given an unfair advantage to incumbents in your methodology

[afleitch]

I understand why you have quelms with this. However, that is the reason why the National Weekly Atlasian held senatorial debates.

Yes, but it doesn't change the premature endorsement before the closing of our debate and analysis. The method you used did not take into account the views of his opponent and, for the record, I happen to think that as a self declared classical liberal myself, would score pretty highly based on responses given and policy proposals.

[afleitch]

I still have questions of the scores' validity.

I still have questions over yours

Could you respond to what I've asked? You've rated PBrunsel against other Senators and you've endorsed him based on that rating, yet you've not rated his opponent in that race. Considering that you are endorsing candidates over other candidates, and not over other Senators, then the system on which you have based senate race endorsements is flawed.

This isn't a 'sour grapes' thing, if I rank below PBrunsel then fine, I've been rated below other candidates in endorsments in the past but I was never ranked (and then a comparison made) in the first place and the same may be true of other candidates in other races.

[afleitch]

Well, the endorsements were not entirely made in correlation with the candidates' scores,

You should have made that clear in the report- afterall you did say It is with these report cards that the National Weekly Atlasian delivers their endorsements:

No offense intended, the free-market solutions on poverty, AIDS, and school choice proposed by PBrunsel sounded better to us than your solutions.

If you want 'free market' solutions to poverty then surely my tax cut proposals for individuals and small businesses as opposed to increases in welfare should strike a chord should it not? And I'm also in support of school vouchers in principle but wont back it till I see what's in the bill. And my HIV/AIDS policy is pretty much the same as the policy under the UK's Conservative/Thatcher administration of the late 80's. I hold free market positions on all three points you've just made

If your support for PBrunsel is simply personal then come out and say so.

[afleitch]

Just for the record this wasn't personal I was simply standing my ground on the campaign Your readers will now know your endorsements were partially based on personal preference  and that as a rsult, the article I took objection to was in fact 'dodgy journalism'.

Now if only we had a press complaints authority.....

[afleitch]

If Aflietch wins the runoff next weekend, then the liberal bloc will possess a veto-proof majority, allowing some of Senator Ebowed's extremer proposals, such as illegalizing lightbulbs and providing socialized health care, to pass.

Oh what a load of crap. Seriously, I've had enough of this. I'm not a member of any bloc, I've certainly not ran as a liberal and for somneone who organised the District 3 debate you don't seem to have read a bloody word of anything I had to say!

I embarrased this rag before and I'm prepared to do it again. Point out where I said I would support socialised healthcare or 'extreme' proposals.

-composure-

[afleitch]

If Aflietch wins the runoff next weekend, then the liberal bloc will possess a veto-proof majority, allowing some of Senator Ebowed's extremer proposals, such as illegalizing lightbulbs and providing socialized health care, to pass.

Oh what a load of crap. Seriously, I've had enough of this. I'm not a member of any bloc, I've certainly not ran as a liberal and for somneone who organised the District 3 debate you don't seem to have read a bloody word of anything I had to say!

I embarrased this rag before and I'm prepared to do it again. Point out where I said I would support socialised healthcare or 'extreme' proposals.

-composure-

I'm sorry about that. However, the liberal bloc would still have a 6-3-1 majority, no matter which way you vote.

Then why say it? You said - 'If Aflietch wins the runoff next weekend, then the liberal bloc will possess a veto-proof majority' when if I don't win it still has a majority? By association you made it appear that I would be part of a liberal bloc that would vote in favour of the measures you outlined. I'm asking you for a retraction.

[afleitch]

it is hard to rid our stories of personal biases.

I don't mind bias at all, it's out and out lies I don't like. Thank you for your apology.

[afleitch]

     What's funny is that even though Bgwah ran for an open seat with a more serious opponent, he won much more decisively than Colin did.

Nonsense.
In case you didn't notice, there was only one valid option on the ballot last time.
It was the most predictable Presidential election in Atlasian history.

     As far as I could tell, most people didn't realize that afleitch/write-in wasn't a valid ticket until Lewis mentioned it.

Even given that, afleitch never stood a chance given the lack of a declared running-mate.

I knew that at the time. It was either that plus write-ins, or no formal opponent.

[afleitch]

I tried to introduce a Press Complaints bill.

[afleitch]

I tried to introduce a Press Complaints bill.

I believe that was because you didn't like that I didn't endorse you in a Senate election.

That's a bit of a selective memory

At the time I was called part of the radical 'liberal' bloc, yet at the time I ran as a conservative - it just happened that I worked with liberals as well as conservatives that seemed to irk the NWA

You also were not particularly truthful about the methods you used to endorse candidates IIRC

You also printed a retraction to the above.

[afleitch]

I wanted to ask how can you endorse one candidate, over another? You can, correctly state that PBrunsel scores highly against other sitting Senators based on these findings, but you can't say he is more worthy of an endorsement in that race than I would be?

That's a selective quote.

Here is the post in full

It would have been nice if other candidates were able to make their case and be ranked according to these criteria
EDIT: To be a wee bit clearer, I wanted to ask how can you endorse one candidate, over another when you don't investigate the stances of his opponent? You can, correctly state that PBrunsel scores highly against other sitting Senators based on these findings, but you can't say he scores higher than his opponent and is therefore more worthy of an endorsement in that race than I would be, without looking at his opponents positions.

I don't mind who you endorse in any race, including my own. But you have to admit you've given an unfair advantage to incumbents in your methodology

PBrunsel was the sitting Senator. He was 'rated' in comparison to other Senators. As a result the NWA endorsed him over me. My question at the time was - how could you endorse someone based on a ratings system when you haven't rated the other candidate?

[afleitch]

I was joking with the selective quote. PBrunsel agreed with the NWA 94% of the time, and based on your debate performance, I found it unlikely that you agreed with the paper that often.

The NWA piece in retrospect probably contributed to the result being the way it was. If only you'd reported during the last presidential race about say the 'anti-regionalist' Afleitch, I could have been president!

j/k.

[afleitch]

I was joking with the selective quote. PBrunsel agreed with the NWA 94% of the time, and based on your debate performance, I found it unlikely that you agreed with the paper that often.

The NWA piece in retrospect probably contributed to the result being the way it was. If only you'd reported during the last presidential race about say the 'anti-regionalist' Afleitch, I could have been president!

j/k.

Do you want to be a writer, as I've offered you repeatedly?

Thank you, but no. I'm involved in too many things here at the moment; Referendum Movement and the RAA (which I really should combine) Assembly and a political and a constitutional convention...I probably should cut back :/

I think I tried my hand at the press once. IRRC the result was unreadable!

[afleitch]

I'm hoping with my VP pick, that people will just say that they support "the andrews"

Or Andrew squared.

[afleitch]

However, of course you will have my second preference and I would obviously vote for you if you were running individually.

I thought having a candidate at the last election to run on platform of increased regional power on the ballot again would have been just the ticket no?

[afleitch]

If it was anyone but Afleitch, I'd have no problem. However, because he chose him, I will have to rethink my options.

You've never explained why. I would be intrigued to know

[afleitch]

If it was anyone but Afleitch, I'd have no problem. However, because he chose him, I will have to rethink my options.

You've never explained why. I would be intrigued to know

You badmouthed our party as recently as two days ago and having a ticket made up entirely of a party that includes Hashpipe and HappyWarrior among its ranks is a sickening thought.  Perahps moreso than yourself even is those who you seem to most closely associate with

What'd I ever do to you?

You've chosen not to play in his treehouse.

[afleitch]

What'd I ever do to you?

We endorsed you with the belief that you supported regional rights and you certainly have not fulfilled that.  You also have not once returned the favor and supported an RPP candidate

I've yet to understand what your interpretation of regional rights actually is considering some of the people you have overlooked who could have pushed that sort of legislation through.

[afleitch]

If it was anyone but Afleitch, I'd have no problem. However, because he chose him, I will have to rethink my options.

You've never explained why. I would be intrigued to know

You badmouthed our party as recently as two days ago and having a ticket made up entirely of a party that includes Hashpipe and HappyWarrior among its ranks is a sickening thought.  Perhaps more so than yourself even is those who you seem to most closely associate with

Just found this post

It just occurred to me; the DA actually, of which I am a member has a regional rights platform published on the Wiki which you can find here;

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Democratic_Alliance_Platform

Where is the formal RPP platform? What do you intend to do beyond vague sabre rattling? It was something I didn't bring up when I addressed (to virtual silence) the October conference. I would certainly like to address your party again because I believe you missed out on someone who was committed to increasing regional authority and self determination in favour of someone who has governed well but hasn't delivered to the RPP base.

If not to the party then perhaps I can make a statement to the NWA, SPC?

[afleitch]

If not to the party then perhaps I can make a statement to the NWA, SPC?

For the fourth time, yes.

Remind me where you said I could make a statement to your paper to the RPP the first three times

If it's the offer of being a contributor/journalist then the answer is no.

[afleitch]

Don't resign.

Secondly, I was notified that there were some concerns over game security and the potential hacking of this site (to do with Atlasia, rather than the forum in general) which was of my utmost concern as a moderator. I was keen on that information being gathered, publicised and dealt with.

However, it transpires that the only hacking was of another forum. If there were any genuine concerns over security issues here they should have been reported privately to moderators. When Jedi was told he should have alerted the other moderators in the Mod's Corner to investigate wha was happening here. It seems nothing did happen, therefore it is an external matter.

[afleitch]

Don't resign.

Secondly, I was notified that there were some concerns over game security and the potential hacking of this site (to do with Atlasia, rather than the forum in general) which was of my utmost concern as a moderator. I was keen on that information being gathered, publicised and dealt with.

However, it transpires that the only hacking was of another forum. If there were any genuine concerns over security issues here they should have been reported privately to moderators. When Jedi was told he should have alerted the other moderators in the Mod's Corner to investigate wha was happening here. It seems nothing did happen, therefore it is an external matter.

I agree, but Marokai told me that Xahar showed him a screenshot of his personal PM box as a way to intimidate him (meaning Xahar had gained access to Marokai's Atlas account). I advised him to report it to the moderating team, which he apparently has done.

If that is indeed still going on, then it is the business of people here. This would be the second account Xahar has hacked in the forum. However, there is no way to know for sure unless Dave were to go look at logs, which isn't likely to happen.

However, I have no reason to believe Marokai is being dishonest now, as everything else he's provided us with has been accurate. If Xahar indeed showed him a screenshot of his own PM box, then its likely he's hacked his account as well.

Just be on the lookout. Xahar has already shown he isn't afraid to do anything possible to get an edge in this game. We all have to fight him every step of the way. Brandon and I can't be the only ones who are doing it, or he'll believe what he is doing is alright with the masses.

Xahar is being dealt with and any breaches recorded. What has probably annoyed most people is the 'outing' of Franzl. He has forced access to another forum (and admitted it), but has done nothing wrong here. I'd rather, as a moderator keep tabs on Xahar

[afleitch]

I'm happy that he's helped us to this point learn more about what Xahar is doing behind the scenes.

But bear in mind he had no requirement to help you at all, as it was a matter for your forum not ours (and he is not a member of your forum. I also hope no pressure was placed on him). Nor did he have to apologise in anyway to anyone but Brandon in private as a matter of courtesy. This did not have to be brought to this forum and publically embarass the guy - and not in the Atlas or Moderators forum either, but in the fantasy forum.

People do have off forum friendships with Xahar - and he is a skilled manipulator (he made you think for a moment that he had Franzl under his influence) If anything you're in danger of doing that work for him. Please - any concerns about Atlas Forum security please alert to your friendly neighbourhood moderators.