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Meclazine for Israel
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« on: April 28, 2020, 10:34:07 AM »

The short answer is the left wing parties are in decline.

Australia, UK, and many parts of Europe have moved to the right.

And Corona-virus will accelerate that movement.

The election in November will be very interesting as you have a different situation in the US to anywhere else.

The theatre of the theatre if you will.
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Meclazine for Israel
Meclazine
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2020, 08:09:19 AM »

The short answer is the left wing parties are in decline.

Australia, UK, and many parts of Europe have moved to the right.

And Corona-virus will accelerate that movement.

The election in November will be very interesting as you have a different situation in the US to anywhere else.

The theatre of the theatre if you will.
I disagree that this virus will make anyone shift further right. If anything, the failure to properly respond is souring or is going to sour on them going further.

I do agree that the United States is in a different situation, and there is a rise of reactionary politics in Europe, but that’s why we gotta look globally to really assess this situation.

Worldwide, I can't think of any government that has truly shown competence, just varying levels of incompetence. This most generally will be an a anti-incumbent effect rather than any particular direction left or right.

Australia's response was not as good as the numbers suggest. We just got lucky and timed everything on Trump's timetable. We had a 2 week headstart in the middle of summer.

Although the Corona-virus produced a socialist response and left-leaning approach from many Western countries, you will find the desire to get the conveyor belt restarted may in fact be causing the shift to the right to occur faster.

Just from the Corona-virus, it is obvious now that the US needs:

  • Proper immigration policies;
  • Less reliance on China;
  • Less useless global institutions that look good on CNN;
  • More US money spent in the US

Global trade made the US China's play thing. The US ran up a 500 Bn trade deficit with China. If you watch the first statements of the first Presidential Debate, Donald was all over this like a suicide bomber.

These are the exact nationalist isolationist populist policies Trump served up in 2016.

The US needs to be the No 1 economy without China suckling at its teet.

Then again, this could be a misread version of events and Joe Biden wins in November.

It's not possible to say at this stage until we see how the US heads out of the pandemic.
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Meclazine for Israel
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2020, 08:35:40 AM »
« Edited: May 02, 2020, 08:40:10 AM by Meclazine »

What is obvious is the need to replace Trump and develop public health strategies and capabilities to deal with future crises.
I won't ever get involved in your little spats.

What about George W Bush? He seemed to have an idea about responding to a pandemic.

George W Bush

Preparing for a Pandemic

https://youtu.be/uSDC5L7qYUc

Maybe his experience with September 11 gave him a crystal clear understanding of how quickly and how real these things could become.
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