DC Unrest Megathread

[DINGO Joe]

AHAHAHHAHAHAHA Loeffler is no longer objecting.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

You can't make this up

What a loser

Instead of going to GA to help Loeffler, Trump went down and made her support his ridiculous crusade.  He's a factor in her loss.  She's probably pissed.

Nobody to blame but herself.  She probably thought being Senator would be fun.

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So does anyone still think Manchin will change parties?

LOL

Sure....bronz

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I just keep thinking how the midterms and 2024 will look for the GOP after today.

Don't expect a Democratic landslide. Much of the Republican base approves of what happened today, and we saw how 2020 turned out. But I think that the Democrats, if they turnout at high rates like they did last year and for the Georgia runoffs, stand a good chance of holding their ground and overcoming the Republicans in the next two election cycles.

Basically my thoughts are in states where Republicans are reliant on suburban support like Az, GA, and TX this won't go too well for them, but in like WI and IA they rely on rural, so this'll have little impact there

I don't want to hear anyone say I'm too "condescending" toward these people ever again.

There's still something to be said about not hitting a hornets nest.

Well, if they can show any willingness to not be deplorable then maybe you could meet them halfway

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https://twitter.com/KateBennett_DC/status/1346999438053617664?s=20

Well what does a social secretary do in a coup anyway?

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If Romney acted a little more like this and less like a Thatcherite Robot in 2012 he might have had a better chance.

Spoiler alert--not an act

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Pat Toomey literally giving election atlas level analysis of PA county votes.

For real, I was ready for him to start talking about swings in SEPA, lol.

I didn't see it, did he discuss with maps?

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Isn't it hilarious and sad, that looking back at the past 4 years, Scaramucci was actually one of the better appointments Trump made?

I'm guessing skill level and time spent in the admin had a strong inverse correlation

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A Democrat should object to North Carolina.

Mmm-no.  Let's get this sh**tshow over

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If the 25th amendment gets enacted, can Trump still issue pardons?

He's not President, so I would say no.

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Democrats need to find "creative" methods of punishing Trump's supporters moving forward.

HB--169 The Missouri Road Removal Act

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Democrats need to find "creative" methods of punishing Trump's supporters moving forward.

HB--169 The Missouri Road Removal Act

Please no.

How about the Rural Deelectrification Administration

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https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1347046544747462656

what are the chances they can track down most of these people?  on the plus side Trump freaks don't wear masks.

Many  of these people aren't bright and will be easy to track down.  For example a newly elected State Rep from Butt Stench, WV was part of the crowd that bust into the Capitol and he posted video of it on line

https://www.wboy.com/top-stories/wv-democrats-call-for-prosecution-and-resignation-of-newly-elected-republican-delegate-involved-in-storming-of-u-s-capitol/

[DINGO Joe]

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1347046544747462656

what are the chances they can track down most of these people?  on the plus side Trump freaks don't wear masks.

Many  of these people aren't bright and will be easy to track down.  For example a newly elected State Rep from Butt Stench, WV was part of the crowd that bust into the Capitol and he posted video of it on line

https://www.wboy.com/top-stories/wv-democrats-call-for-prosecution-and-resignation-of-newly-elected-republican-delegate-involved-in-storming-of-u-s-capitol/

now this Butt Stench, WV... is that really a place? 

All too real

[DINGO Joe]

At the very minimum, we should all offer critical support to the upcoming Biden Administration against the putschists.

These terrorists need to be stopped by any means necessary.

No. If anything I side with the putschists because I always support the underdog perspective. You remind me of this group that actually admitted that most of the imperialist ruling class supports Biden but still endorsed him anyway because MUH NAZIS: http://www.lrp-cofi.org/statements/election2020.html

Biden is the most bourgeois and reactionary Democrat in decades (while Trump is the least "bad" Republican, compared to Reagan, Bush, McCain, Romney, etc.) yet has gotten unprecedented support from supposed "radical leftists" who used to oppose the Democratic Party. Even Obama never had this kind of support and it is pretty disappointing, to say the least. I guess I shouldn't have expected much better from Trots.

I can't really stand with the MAGA movement though because it is cringe. I can support querfronts with some far-right groups but not the kind that think Obama wasn't pro-Israel enough, which is what most of the MAGA crowd are. I do stand with the woman who was murdered by the pigs. Working-class lives of ANY color don't matter to the pigs.

Lmao. This is a parody right?

Well, it certainly reminds me why Pineville Jeb is one of a very small number of posters I have on ignore.

Being ignored by a Blairite is a badge of honor.

Mods, when?

PLEASE DADDY, SUPPRESS THE DISSIDENT'S RIGHT TO EXPRESS HIS OPINION! MMMMMMMMMMMMM CUMMIES!!

What if the underdog is promoting a foul ideology? Would you still support them?

For that matter, what do you define as an underdog?

Whoever the bourgeois, liberal, "respectable" opinion is demonizing at the time.

For instance, in the 1980s the Polish People's Republic government was the underdog because it was being demonized by the imperialist ruling class and their liberal and "left" cheerleaders for defending the gains of the Polish workers' revolution against counterrevolutionary Solidarnosc fascists.

It's 2AM, no one gives a duck about whatever you're talking about, we just want the rightfully elected President declared the winner and this worthless dog and pony show to be over.

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I just heard Tim Ryan being interviewed on our local NPR station. He is of course the chair of the committee that oversees the Capitol Police Department. He had words of praise for the Department saying they were simply outmanned, but castigated the fact that the Capitol Police were over also unprepared and understaffed given all the advance warning of incitement that Donald Trump has committed over the last several months.

What shocked me was news I had not yet her. Reportedly there are 40 to 50 officers injured out of this, 15 of whom were hospitalized, one of whom is in critical condition after being beaten with pipes!

How they could be so unprepared is beyond me. Handling things like this is their job.

Of course, the part I was surprised about was the fact that the DC National Guard hadn't been activated.  I naturally assumed they'd be there because you see them for other protests, but it turn out (at least under Trump) they're only called out in advance for black protestors.

[DINGO Joe]

I just heard Tim Ryan being interviewed on our local NPR station. He is of course the chair of the committee that oversees the Capitol Police Department. He had words of praise for the Department saying they were simply outmanned, but castigated the fact that the Capitol Police were over also unprepared and understaffed given all the advance warning of incitement that Donald Trump has committed over the last several months.

What shocked me was news I had not yet her. Reportedly there are 40 to 50 officers injured out of this, 15 of whom were hospitalized, one of whom is in critical condition after being beaten with pipes!

How they could be so unprepared is beyond me. Handling things like this is their job.

Of course, the part I was surprised about was the fact that the DC National Guard hadn't been activated.  I naturally assumed they'd be there because you see them for other protests, but it turn out (at least under Trump) they're only called out in advance for black protestors.

There’s a little more nuance on that particular point, though, because Muriel Bowser had talked with the Secretary of Defense a couple of weeks ago and they agreed that the DC National Guard would be deployed if these protests turned ugly.

I'm sure we'll learn details soon enough, but it's not hard to find pictures of National Guard all lined up on the Capitol steps for previous demonstrations.  Well in advance.

[DINGO Joe]

So has Ossoff and Warnock been sworn in?

No, this won't likely happen until the Senate reconvenes on Jan. 19.  The counties haven't even finished counting yet; overseas ballots can arrive as late as tomorrow and still be counted, and provisional ballots can still be cured by the same deadline.  The counties must certify their results by Jan. 15, and the state should do so shortly thereafter since both races are outside the recount margin.  Once that occurs, they can be sworn in.  Loeffler remains in the Senate until Warnock is sworn in, since she's filling Johnny Isakson's unexpired term; Perdue's seat is vacant until Ossoff is sworn in.

Based on this timeline, Loeffler won't even be able to deliver a farewell speech.

Hopefully, she's never heard from again.

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Dead traitor #2 is Rosanne Boland of Kennesaw, GA who was apparently crushed to death during the breach of the Capitol

https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-kennesaw-woman-killed-during-wednesdays-riot-at-us-capitol/TYFSPVSLWZCZHNCGRG56SNJAJA/?outputType=amp

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The video is actually very good. He should have recorded this video on November 6 or 7 when it became clear that he had lost the election.

He should resign now to avoid being impeached and Pence should pardon him.

God's how in God's name can you say he deserves pardoned? Is this just a way of pardoning your own conscience for supporting this neo-Nazi?

No. It's just an embarrassment to the country to have a former President prosecuted for crimes and possibly convicted.

It's a little late to worry about being embarrassed by a Trump Presidency

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To be honest, regarding the "unheard and oppressed" argument; in my view sure, the average MAGA cultist is 100% not unheard and oppressed.

But in their own eyes, they feel unheard and oppressed despite not being so. That is a perception issue that needs to be adressed somehow.

You can go all Ben Shapiro and say "facts don't care about your feelings", but that isn't really a strategy that will make the average cultist more reasonable.

The truth is that the roots of the MAGA movement can be traced back to Barry Goldwater's "Government isn't the solution it is the problem" position.  It took 55 years but there is a direct line between those things.

The average MAGA follower has been told time that any problem in their life is caused by government or by people on the other political extreme.  And if you believe that government is the problem then you inherently support anarchy.

Oh, I'm sure you can trace it back before that.  Violence and intimidation were staples of the political process in the South for quite some time and even sporadically elsewhere.

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https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1348284578037960706

Thank God. And I don't believe that is a hyperbolic statement whatsoever. Mass prosecution's of these people who almost universally escaped arrest on that day is a crucial part of History establishing the wrongness of this traitorous violent insurrection.

Now if they'll just go after the ringleader....

They have a very good defense. They were instructed to do so by the President of the United States. They believed they were doing the right thing.

Ah, the "Hitler made me do it" defense.  Good luck with that.

[DINGO Joe]

Trump Terrorists are being added to the no-fly list:

https://twitter.com/RayRedacted/status/1348388601118273537?s=20

What a crybaby. Hope he likes long drives!

Wait til he finds out there's a no-drive list too.  Start walking.

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Alright ya Queens, we know how it all ends--take it to it's own thread.

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I don't understand why members of the House need to be fined for refusing to walk through metal detectors.

Just deny entry.  Can they walk onto a plane without going thru one?

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It also seems like a petty tyranny, which is why I asked about it. What conceivable safety benefit is there to scanning the bodies of every member?

To keep a crazy Congressperson from shooting up the place?