Third Presidential debate running commentary thread

[Torie]

McCain didn't deny that he will pay face value for toxic mortgages. Is he just stubborn or dumb?  Obama is struggling on campaign process issues.

[Torie]

McCain: "I'm proud of the [racists and xenophobes] that come to my rallies."

Do you think  anyone else show up at McCain's rallies?  Or are all of his supporters nativists and racists?

[Torie]

Obama destroyed McCain on Ayers.

This is probably the end, folks.

Voters don't care much about Ayers other than GOP partisans. That is the problem with pursuing it. I don't think it changes much.

[Torie]

McCain bashing Biden won't move the ball for him. It is a distraction. McCain is wasting valuable time.

[Torie]

Why didn't Obama attack Palin there? McCain threw Biden under the bus

Because this election is not about Biden. Obama was wise to not spend his time defending Biden.

[Torie]

What's wrong with Venezuelan oil?

Well, America only accepts oil from liberal democracies.

The point is to defund perps everywhere as rapidly as reasonably possible. Obama is trimming on offshore drilling which is good, although McCain just raised the ante there. Does look at = drill now?

[Torie]

Well, Obama owned McCain on health care. McCain just doesn't get the noisome details. One thing McCain should have done, was not cut off the tax treatment of employer plans, but just offer tax credits for those not covered. That would have deprived Obama of a talking point, because the idea that employees would get higher tax home pay, if the employer nixed their employer plans just won't sell, even if correct economically.

It may be that health care is the Brutus knife for McCain. I think he failed to realize just how dangerous an issue it was to him.

[Torie]

McCain thinks that whole "health of the mother" thing is a big scam.

It basically is. A note from her shrink that she is depressed is enough. Folks can get anything out of doctors these days, if they pay. Heck some are writing prescriptions for pot like hotcakes.

Health issues should have a bit more rigor than that, for late term abortions. Really.

[Torie]

Because late term abortions are "immoral," absent real physical medical risks to the mother, but BS stuff.  Fetuses then have brain waves, they move around in the womb, and some might survive outside the womb. Aborting viable fetuses is close to murder in my mind. Framed in that way, your opinion vis a vis public opinion, is well "extremist," and should be. JMO.

[Torie]

Obama does not want to really debate school vouchers, other than say he is opposed. I wonder why? On this issue, the Dems are downright evil, "owned" as they are by teachers' unions and tort lawyers. Heck, that is the reason more than anything, why I am still a Republican!

[Torie]

Uncertified teachers?

How's that going to improve quality?

Teaching is something that takes certain skills, it's not something that gets picked up instantly.

Do you know how a teacher gets "certified?" Do you know how many bright young folks can't teach for awhile due to the cert requirement? Do you have any faith at all, that parents can pick schools that are best for their kids?  Do you care, about locking in kids to failing schools, who don't have the money to pay for a private school, or buy their way to a more expensive zip code in which to live?

[Torie]

Because late term abortions are "immoral," absent real physical medical risks to the mother, but BS stuff.  Fetuses then have brain waves, they move around in the womb, and some might survive outside the womb. Aborting viable fetuses is close to murder in my mind. Framed in that way, your opinion vis a vis public opinion, is well "extremist," and should be. JMO.

Forcing a woman to die because of her pregnancy is the sign of a true extreme wingnut who should not have any power of any sort in this country.

Uncertified teachers?

How's that going to improve quality?

Teaching is something that takes certain skills, it's not something that gets picked up instantly.

Some teacher certification is just BS. They should make it easier for people with advanced degrees to become teachers, when some gym teacher is teaching science anyways.

McCain does not oppose later term abortions that pose real material physical medical risks to the mother, nor do I. Nice try.

[Torie]

Well McCain I think has his best debate. But he's going to lose. I am quite confident of that now. He just didn't do much for swing voters, to change their mind, and as a newly minted swing voter, I remain one. This will be a painful choice for me.