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« Reply #125 on: November 23, 2016, 12:42:56 PM »

Clinton 64,160,361 47.90%
Trump 62,217,622 46.45%
Johnson 4,402,142 3.29%
Stein 1,384,348 1.03%
McMullin 572,310 0.43%
Castle 193,825 0.14%
La Riva 65,124 0.05%
De La Fuente 32,971 0.02%
Sanders 24,693 0.02%
Duncan 23,552 0.02%
Other 89,262 0.07%

Write-ins not broken down yet 734,239 0.55%
Scattered (write-ins post broken-down) 8,474 0.01%
None of These Candidates 28,863 0.02%

Total 133,937,674
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« Reply #126 on: November 23, 2016, 01:31:21 PM »

Clinton takes a 2 million vote lead
Clinton 64,235,478
Trump 62,235,295
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« Reply #127 on: November 23, 2016, 01:42:15 PM »

I'm hearing that there are enough provisional ballots out in Ohio to flip the state.
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« Reply #128 on: November 23, 2016, 01:57:18 PM »

I'm hearing that there are enough provisional ballots out in Ohio to flip the state.

LOL, no.

There are about 261.000 ballots left to count in OH and Trump is already ahead by more than 450.000

https://vote.ohio.gov
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« Reply #129 on: November 23, 2016, 02:06:19 PM »

How many ballots left there are in closest states?
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« Reply #130 on: November 23, 2016, 02:11:52 PM »

How many ballots left there are in closest states?

Nobody knows, but only a few provisional ballots I guess.

Many states will count on for another 3 weeks.

By mid-December, all states will certify their results.
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« Reply #131 on: November 23, 2016, 02:14:51 PM »

How many ballots left there are in closest states?

Nobody knows, but only a few provisional ballots I guess.

Many states will count on for another 3 weeks.

By mid-December, all states will certify their results.

As far as I know the last State to certify the Nov 8th Election Results will be CA on Dec. 14th
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« Reply #132 on: November 23, 2016, 02:18:18 PM »

How many ballots left there are in closest states?

Nobody knows, but only a few provisional ballots I guess.

Many states will count on for another 3 weeks.

By mid-December, all states will certify their results.

As far as I know the last State to certify the Nov 8th Election Results will be CA on Dec. 14th

Dec. 16th actually:

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http://vote.sos.ca.gov

That's only 3 days before the EC meets ... and yeah, I guess it is the last state to do so.
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« Reply #133 on: November 23, 2016, 02:56:16 PM »

I'm hearing that there are enough provisional ballots out in Ohio to flip the state.

No states will flip, either way
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« Reply #134 on: November 23, 2016, 05:20:52 PM »

I'm hearing that there are enough provisional ballots out in Ohio to flip the state.

I think only if they go something like 95-5 for Clinton
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« Reply #135 on: November 23, 2016, 05:23:31 PM »

Based on the current data coming in we have
 
Clinton        64.23 million     48.08%
Trump         62.21 million     46.57%


and then extrapolating based on current vote shares in each state and estimated votes outstanding we currently have

Clinton        65.37 million     48.18%
Trump         63.05 million     46.47%

For a Clinton lead of 1.71%

I think the Clinton lead will be less than this only because the estimate of outstanding votes in CA is most likely exaggerated.    Although IL and OH are factors as its is not clear how many more IL and OH votes out there.
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« Reply #136 on: November 23, 2016, 07:00:00 PM »

Michigan is now completely in, with following results to be certified on Nov28th:

2,279,543 Donald J. Trump, Republican
2,268,839 Hillary Clinton, Democratic
   172,136 Gary Johnson, Libertarian
     51,463 Jill Stein, Green
     27,393 others

Trump leads Clinton by 10,704 votes.

"The results below have been canvassed and certified by county canvassing boards, but are unofficial until certified by the Michigan Board of State Canvassers on Nov. 28. These are the numbers that will be presented to the state board for the Nov. 8 presidential election. Trump leads Clinton by 10,704 votes."
michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8722_76444-397762--,00.html



 
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« Reply #137 on: November 23, 2016, 08:23:02 PM »

What makes me doubtful about Trump victory in Wisconsin is its near 8% decrease in turnout, which is really contrasting to the Nation trend...so it makes me believe at least that a WI recount is really needed...
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« Reply #138 on: November 23, 2016, 08:30:52 PM »

What makes me doubtful about Trump victory in Wisconsin is its near 8% decrease in turnout, which is really contrasting to the Nation trend...so it makes me believe at least that a WI recount is really needed...

Base on the latest numbers WI turnout dropped from 72.9% to 68.6% which is a drop of 4.3%.  Yes the surprising victory of Trump must be related to the drop in turnout.  On the other hand MS turnout also dropped from 59.3% to 53.5% for a fall of 5.8%.   I think MS's turnout fall has to do with the fact that Obama is not running which to some extent decreased racial polarization which in turn reduced turnout overall.  Not sure what took place in WI.
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« Reply #139 on: November 23, 2016, 08:31:24 PM »

Hillary passed Obama's 2012 number in raw votes in California.
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« Reply #140 on: November 23, 2016, 08:51:48 PM »

Yes, Wisconsin pattern is really strange, and I'm still doubtful about its actual results. Also, the fact that the State doesn't have a statewide count but only a county-level one, complicates more the situation...our site gives Trump a plus 24k lead, Wasserman only a plus 22k one, thegreenpapers 28k circa, and so on...we don't know nothing sure about Wisconsin actual results.
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« Reply #141 on: November 23, 2016, 10:53:05 PM »

Yes, Wisconsin pattern is really strange, and I'm still doubtful about its actual results. Also, the fact that the State doesn't have a statewide count but only a county-level one, complicates more the situation...our site gives Trump a plus 24k lead, Wasserman only a plus 22k one, thegreenpapers 28k circa, and so on...we don't know nothing sure about Wisconsin actual results.

Are you arguing that a slight turnout variation (which happened in plenty of places, and often happens between elections) from 2012 indicates that the results may be fraudulent?
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« Reply #142 on: November 24, 2016, 08:04:46 AM »

I think CA has shifted 1% to the Left since election night.  So as badly Trump did on election night in CA the mail in votes were even worse for him.
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« Reply #143 on: November 24, 2016, 08:16:32 AM »
« Edited: November 24, 2016, 08:29:28 AM by Axel Foley »



Are you arguing that a slight turnout variation (which happened in plenty of places, and often happens between elections) from 2012 indicates that the results may be fraudulent?

No, absolutely not. I only meant that from my point of view( meaningless, I know) WI should be put on the too close too call list along with MI. We have to wait for certified results and maybe for the Stein-seeked recount.
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« Reply #144 on: November 24, 2016, 08:27:45 AM »

Stein has raised money for recount in Wisconsin. PLEASE DO RECOUNT because I cannot wait to see Hillary and Stein losing for second time. And I don't know why she is raising money for recount in PA because difference between Trump and Clinton is above 1%.
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« Reply #145 on: November 24, 2016, 08:41:20 AM »

Stein has raised money for recount in Wisconsin. PLEASE DO RECOUNT because I cannot wait to see Hillary and Stein losing for second time. And I don't know why she is raising money for recount in PA because difference between Trump and Clinton is above 1%.

Hopefully the Clinton camp does not try to get on board or they will look like Sore Loserman II
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« Reply #146 on: November 24, 2016, 11:17:53 AM »

Michigan is now completely in, with following results to be certified on Nov28th:

2,279,543 Donald J. Trump, Republican
2,268,839 Hillary Clinton, Democratic
   172,136 Gary Johnson, Libertarian
     51,463 Jill Stein, Green
     27,393 others

Trump leads Clinton by 10,704 votes.

"The results below have been canvassed and certified by county canvassing boards, but are unofficial until certified by the Michigan Board of State Canvassers on Nov. 28. These are the numbers that will be presented to the state board for the Nov. 8 presidential election. Trump leads Clinton by 10,704 votes."
michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8722_76444-397762--,00.html


I think we can safely say that had the polls showed Hillary losing/tied in Michigan, she would've won the state. At least 10,000 nonvoters/third-party supporters would have begrudgingly voted for her had they thought they needed to. This may either be from Bernie fans who voted Stein or wrote someone in, or from #NeverTrump Republicans.

Decent chance the same is true about Wisconsin. Not sure about Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #147 on: November 24, 2016, 04:02:58 PM »

Based on the current data coming in we have
 
Clinton        64.42 million     48.11%
Trump         62.31 million     46.54%


and then extrapolating based on current vote shares in each state and estimated votes outstanding we currently have

Clinton        65.34 million     48.18%
Trump         63.00 million     46.46%

For a Clinton lead of 1.72%
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« Reply #148 on: November 24, 2016, 04:06:08 PM »

Stein has raised money for recount in Wisconsin. PLEASE DO RECOUNT because I cannot wait to see Hillary and Stein losing for second time. And I don't know why she is raising money for recount in PA because difference between Trump and Clinton is above 1%.

Hopefully the Clinton camp does not try to get on board or they will look like Sore Loserman II
Republicans will spin it as a Clinton issue anyway if Stein gets the recount.
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« Reply #149 on: November 25, 2016, 08:47:52 AM »

I think we can safely say that had the polls showed Hillary losing/tied in Michigan, she would've won the state. At least 10,000 nonvoters/third-party supporters would have begrudgingly voted for her had they thought they needed to.

Or a bunch of Trump supporters would have turned out when they saw the state was winnable. There's no way to know how it would have played out.
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