Megathread: Congressional Vote on the Iran Deal
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« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2015, 06:18:58 PM »

Sen. Klobuchar (D-MN) is another yes. That's 18.

Franken (D-MN) is "strongly leaning toward supporting the deal."
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« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2015, 01:04:26 PM »

Senator Flake predicts Obama will win on Iran Deal, Also may vote for the deal

Obama's best chance for getting a Republican to support the deal.
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« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2015, 02:19:06 PM »

Flake is my new favorite Republican Senator.
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« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2015, 02:37:21 PM »

Flake is my new favorite Republican Senator.

I was thinking the same thing, though there's still a good chance he's opposed.
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« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2015, 07:25:42 PM »
« Edited: August 11, 2015, 07:30:25 PM by Gass3268 »

Dr. Gary Samore became chairman back in 2013 for the group United Against Nuclear Iran. He is one of the leading non-proliferation experts in the country and one of the biggest skeptics about the deal  before the deal was announced last month. Dr. Samore had to resign as chairman because he supports the deal! LOL!

Former Senator Joe Lieberman has taken his place
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« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2015, 11:12:09 PM »

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« Reply #81 on: August 12, 2015, 05:04:42 PM »

No longer a member of Congress, but Rahm Emannuel supports the deal.
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« Reply #82 on: August 12, 2015, 05:41:01 PM »

Flake is my new favorite Republican Senator.

I was thinking the same thing, though there's still a good chance he's opposed.

I guess you could say that his potential support his flaky at best.
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« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2015, 12:25:31 PM »

Sen. Franken (D-MN) is officially a YES.
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« Reply #84 on: August 13, 2015, 01:33:28 PM »

Another self-hater.
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« Reply #85 on: August 13, 2015, 01:35:44 PM »

Rep. Jim Himes (Conn.) is a Yes, now up to 45. Currently only 10 Democratic rejections in the House.
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« Reply #86 on: August 13, 2015, 02:26:21 PM »

What?
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« Reply #87 on: August 13, 2015, 02:48:46 PM »

Sen. Tester (D-MT) is also a yes. That's 20, so far.
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« Reply #88 on: August 13, 2015, 03:07:23 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senators-obama-iran-deal_55cb6670e4b0923c12beceb7

This thread is great too.
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« Reply #89 on: August 14, 2015, 01:58:25 PM »

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) is a yes

Obama only needs 14 votes. Huffington Post as 11 Democratic Senators listed as likely supporting the deal. That means they only 3 votes are needed from the 12 current undecideds. Things are looking good!
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« Reply #90 on: August 14, 2015, 05:24:26 PM »

Does anyone have any idea in what order the two chambers would vote on any veto override?
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« Reply #91 on: August 14, 2015, 09:42:26 PM »

Here is the current vote map in the House. I am assuming that every Republican is a no (if that changes I'll edit the map). Dark Red is Yes, Light Red is a Likely Yes, Pink is No, Purple is Undecided, and Brown is No Declared Position.

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« Reply #92 on: August 15, 2015, 01:05:27 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2015, 01:17:29 PM by Winter has come »

Wouldn't Schumer seriously damage his chances of becoming the new Dem leader by voting against his own caucus on such critical issue? Real Democrats certainly shouldn't let that slip.
I think it might hurt him, but if he doesn't actively try to convince other Democrats and the bill will be passed, then he will be forgiven. Other Democrats will understand that he is not to be envied, as a Jewish senator in New York, the blue state were opposition against the Iran deal might be the highest. Supporting the deal might lead to a serious primary.

Democratic Jews don't care about foreign policy nearly as much as everyone seems to think. Otherwise they'd be solid Republicans by now. Also, despite what Netanyahu wants us to believe, he does not in fact speak for all Jews.

If Schumer fears he'll be primaried, it's just further proof that Democrats need to grow a spine.

Neither do you.

But a combination of Bibi, Bennett, Herzog, Lapid, Livni, and others do speak for Jews worldwide, and they all oppose this bad Iran deal.

*snip*

Except they really don't...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/on-the-iran-deal-american-jewish-leaders-dont-speak-for-all-jews/2015/08/14/988e577e-41d5-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html

Polls have consistently shown that most Jewish Americans support the deal.
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« Reply #93 on: August 15, 2015, 02:59:19 PM »

Sen. Flake (R-AZ) is a no. Probably unified GOP opposition now.
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« Reply #94 on: August 15, 2015, 03:08:06 PM »

Sen. Flake (R-AZ) is a no. Probably unified GOP opposition now.

The Party of No indeed.
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« Reply #95 on: August 15, 2015, 04:18:19 PM »

Massie, Amash, Duncan and Jones are still decent GOP possibilities for support of the deal, I'd think, given previous votes and statements.
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« Reply #96 on: August 15, 2015, 05:24:16 PM »

I think Rep. Walter Jones is a possibility, but I think he might vote no, since he has another tough primary challenge coming up.
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« Reply #97 on: August 15, 2015, 09:54:13 PM »

I think Rep. Walter Jones is a possibility, but I think he might vote no, since he has another tough primary challenge coming up.

He is one who can be fairly counted on to follow his conscience when it comes to issues of war and peace.   
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« Reply #98 on: August 16, 2015, 10:01:51 AM »
« Edited: August 16, 2015, 10:14:45 AM by sex-negative feminist prude »

I'm hesitant to bring this up because I'm only patrilineally Jewish (and thus not really Jewish at all, because I take the rules seriously even if they're not technically mine), but accusing somebody like Al Franken (I don't know enough about Horus to know whether or not the same can be said of him) of not being Jewish enough or of self-hatred on the basis of a position that evinces a slightly-less-than-uncritical attitude towards the Israeli political consensus is honestly kind of unnerving. I understand that most (all?) of the major political factions in Israel are less than thrilled with this deal and many of them are quite vehemently opposed to it, but treating it as an issue on which dissent from that viewpoint is completely unacceptable strikes me as...I can't think of a word that succinctly indicates that I have a strongly negative view of that tendency but don't consider myself invested enough in Jewishness to fully commit to that view, but it strikes me as that.
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« Reply #99 on: August 16, 2015, 01:53:10 PM »

I'm hesitant to bring this up because I'm only patrilineally Jewish (and thus not really Jewish at all, because I take the rules seriously even if they're not technically mine), but accusing somebody like Al Franken (I don't know enough about Horus to know whether or not the same can be said of him) of not being Jewish enough or of self-hatred on the basis of a position that evinces a slightly-less-than-uncritical attitude towards the Israeli political consensus is honestly kind of unnerving. I understand that most (all?) of the major political factions in Israel are less than thrilled with this deal and many of them are quite vehemently opposed to it, but treating it as an issue on which dissent from that viewpoint is completely unacceptable strikes me as...I can't think of a word that succinctly indicates that I have a strongly negative view of that tendency but don't consider myself invested enough in Jewishness to fully commit to that view, but it strikes me as that.

I'm not a religious Jew by any means, but my mother is Jewish so I am as well whether I like it or not. The self hater mantra that the neocons and revisionist Zionists throw around has bothered me for years, but until yesterday the term had never made it onto this forum.
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