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« Reply #200 on: May 09, 2017, 07:12:30 PM »

Also I love it too how Chris Hayes, MSNBC anchor and not a Republican, tweeted that no one would care if Clinton did the same thing if her campaign were being investigated

Do you really think the Russian issue isn't a big deal given your concern over LePen?
I never said Russia isn't a big issue. I am 100% convinced Putin is trying to undermine the West in any election he can. What bothers me is those who CONSISTENTLY call out Russia as being tied to Trump at every moment.
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« Reply #201 on: May 09, 2017, 07:13:32 PM »

Also I love it too how Chris Hayes, MSNBC anchor and not a Republican, tweeted that no one would care if Clinton did the same thing if her campaign were being investigated

Do you really think the Russian issue isn't a big deal given your concern over LePen?
I never said Russia isn't a big issue. I am 100% convinced Putin is trying to undermine the West in any election he can. What bothers me is those who CONSISTENTLY call out Russia as being tied to Trump at every moment.

You are getting very close to winning the cookie.
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« Reply #202 on: May 09, 2017, 07:14:33 PM »

It's good to know democrats love James Comey now, pathetic hacks

I don't think people are defending Comey. They're questioning the timing.

Better late than never, but why right after Comey gave that testimony?

Yes.  Both of these can be true:

1. Comey has made some serious mistakes over the past year, and probably needed to go.

2. Trump's firing of Comey at this time reeks of conflict of interest.
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« Reply #203 on: May 09, 2017, 07:15:05 PM »

It's good to know democrats love James Comey now, pathetic hacks

I don't think people are defending Comey. They're questioning the timing.

Better late than never, but why right after Comey gave that testimony?

Probably because Comey once again very clearly stated they've come across no evidence - even circumstantial - after six month of investigation.

Trump (and Clinton had she won) probably wanted to fire the guy on day one. But it would look like bad optics.

Comey was incompetent and too steeped in politics (even if it was not his intent). He had to go.

Clinton would have done the same thing, probably around the same time too.
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« Reply #204 on: May 09, 2017, 07:15:14 PM »

Also I love it too how Chris Hayes, MSNBC anchor and not a Republican, tweeted that no one would care if Clinton did the same thing if her campaign were being investigated

Do you really think the Russian issue isn't a big deal given your concern over LePen?
I never said Russia isn't a big issue. I am 100% convinced Putin is trying to undermine the West in any election he can. What bothers me is those who CONSISTENTLY call out Russia as being tied to Trump at every moment.

There is a hysteria over Donald Trump absolutely but in this case I thought the red flag is that Trump has to replace the FBI director that's overseeing the investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia links. I would call that a problem, minimum.

If you believed that shouldn't you be equally concerned over the allegations about the closeness of Trump and Russia from multiple sources?
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« Reply #205 on: May 09, 2017, 07:15:58 PM »

anyone who honestly thinks that if any evidence existed of a direct collusion between Trump and Russia that it would not have been leaked to CNN months ago is naive
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« Reply #206 on: May 09, 2017, 07:18:49 PM »

Well let's explore the example more. Let's say the suspicions were that I ran a huge child prostitution ring in fact. Let's say the investigation began about a year ago, less than that, and started because of happenstance and that a serious investigation only started happening a couple of months ago. Let's say that several of my associates have raised questions about me.

Shouldn't a massive investigation require time - including more than just several months? And shouldn't it be fully funded and fully staffed to either  clear my name or prosecute me?
If a fully funded investigation has been going on for months and has still found absolutely no evidence to back up these claims then maybe questions should be asked about whether such an investigation is justified.

As for 'clearing names' its not the job of an FBI or police investigation to 'clear' anybody's name. If they don't find evidence that can be given to a prosecutor and they stop investigating the that's it. 'Clearing' people is something done by courts, not by police or FBI.

As for your suggestion that this whole thing started by 'happenstance' that's highly doubtful. Much more likely that this has been a witch hunt from the very start.

You're are an amazing voice of reason. It's refreshing.

This site used to actually be a reasonable place for people to discuss politics and election strategies without the annoying 'bumper sticker' politics.

Now it's just bumper sticker politics.

Is that really true? This forum has ALWAYS been on the far-left side of the political spectrum.

Even the so-called "moderates" are rather center-left. The main website has always been a great repository of elections data. The maps and statistics are virtually unmatched by any resource anywhere. Yet for some reason, the forum attracts far more socialists and communists than right-wing conservatives.

The few conservatives here are constantly hounded, and consistently the subject of petitions to be banned. Anyone that doesn't toe the far-left line is ridiculed.

If you look at the self-reported political positions of the forum, and the predictions of said forum, you'd find something squarely in the mainstream.... of DailyKos or Democratic Underground.

Is it uncomfortable up on that cross?
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« Reply #207 on: May 09, 2017, 07:20:17 PM »

anyone who honestly thinks that if any evidence existed of a direct collusion between Trump and Russia that it would not have been leaked to CNN months ago is naive
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« Reply #208 on: May 09, 2017, 07:20:48 PM »

Now imagine we have a President Clinton. Boy oh boy, the Trump Brigade would be pissed!

Many probably would. Comey still should have been fired though.

Although, unlike Trump, there was actual undeniable proof that Clinton broke multiple feral laws. But she was was not prosecuted because Comey didn't want to sack a presidential nominee.

Which is ironic. Because had he done his job, Biden would have stepped in and probably crushed Trump.
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« Reply #209 on: May 09, 2017, 07:21:37 PM »

There are suggestions that now that Comey has been fired that the Hillary Clinton e-mail investigation might be reopened.

Where are you seeing this?

Jack Posobiec  🇺🇸‏Verified account @JackPosobiec  1h1 hour ago
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 Source: They may be reopening the Clinton investigation after firing partisan Comey – At The West Wing

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/862077823699365890
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« Reply #210 on: May 09, 2017, 07:24:28 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2017, 07:27:10 PM by ApatheticAustrian »

Jeff Sessions was tasked with finding reasons for firing Comey, they hope his successor is going to close the Russia deal...

They didn't think this would be a big deal and they are suggesting, one of the reasons was how bad Comey has treated Hillary.

Welcome to bizarro world lol
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« Reply #211 on: May 09, 2017, 07:24:58 PM »

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/862072444852588545
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« Reply #212 on: May 09, 2017, 07:25:10 PM »

There are suggestions that now that Comey has been fired that the Hillary Clinton e-mail investigation might be reopened.

Where are you seeing this?

Jack Posobiec  🇺🇸‏Verified account @JackPosobiec  1h1 hour ago
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 Source: They may be reopening the Clinton investigation after firing partisan Comey – At The West Wing

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/862077823699365890

Garbage.
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« Reply #213 on: May 09, 2017, 07:25:15 PM »

anyone who honestly thinks that if any evidence existed of a direct collusion between Trump and Russia that it would not have been leaked to CNN months ago is naive

The reasons there are investigations is because they want to establish something I assume. There is plenty of circumstantial issues and questions. The question is now substantiating it.
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« Reply #214 on: May 09, 2017, 07:26:37 PM »

There are suggestions that now that Comey has been fired that the Hillary Clinton e-mail investigation might be reopened.

Where are you seeing this?

Jack Posobiec  🇺🇸‏Verified account @JackPosobiec  1h1 hour ago
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 Source: They may be reopening the Clinton investigation after firing partisan Comey – At The West Wing

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/862077823699365890

Do you get your news exclusively from the worst assholes on Twitter?
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« Reply #215 on: May 09, 2017, 07:27:48 PM »

Man the devotion Trump has from his base to not see what a red flag this is is simply disturbing
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« Reply #216 on: May 09, 2017, 07:28:37 PM »

I want preet bharara to be nominated as FBI director

I'd be in favor of that.

Sign me up for that!
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« Reply #217 on: May 09, 2017, 07:28:38 PM »

Well let's explore the example more. Let's say the suspicions were that I ran a huge child prostitution ring in fact. Let's say the investigation began about a year ago, less than that, and started because of happenstance and that a serious investigation only started happening a couple of months ago. Let's say that several of my associates have raised questions about me.

Shouldn't a massive investigation require time - including more than just several months? And shouldn't it be fully funded and fully staffed to either  clear my name or prosecute me?
If a fully funded investigation has been going on for months and has still found absolutely no evidence to back up these claims then maybe questions should be asked about whether such an investigation is justified.

As for 'clearing names' its not the job of an FBI or police investigation to 'clear' anybody's name. If they don't find evidence that can be given to a prosecutor and they stop investigating the that's it. 'Clearing' people is something done by courts, not by police or FBI.

As for your suggestion that this whole thing started by 'happenstance' that's highly doubtful. Much more likely that this has been a witch hunt from the very start.

You're are an amazing voice of reason. It's refreshing.
This site used to actually be a reasonable place for people to discuss politics and election strategies without the annoying 'bumper sticker' politics.
Now it's just bumper sticker politics.

So says the guy who just posted a long ranting post, full of "annoying bumper sticker politics."
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« Reply #218 on: May 09, 2017, 07:30:04 PM »

It's good to know democrats love James Comey now, pathetic hacks

I don't think people are defending Comey. They're questioning the timing.

Better late than never, but why right after Comey gave that testimony?

Yes.  Both of these can be true:

1. Comey has made some serious mistakes over the past year, and probably needed to go.

2. Trump's firing of Comey at this time reeks of conflict of interest.

My thoughts exactly
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« Reply #219 on: May 09, 2017, 07:30:19 PM »

I imagine you need a sense of humor to work at the Nixon Library. Good to know they have one.
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« Reply #220 on: May 09, 2017, 07:31:10 PM »

anyone who honestly thinks that if any evidence existed of a direct collusion between Trump and Russia that it would not have been leaked to CNN months ago is naive
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« Reply #221 on: May 09, 2017, 07:32:46 PM »

Well let's explore the example more. Let's say the suspicions were that I ran a huge child prostitution ring in fact. Let's say the investigation began about a year ago, less than that, and started because of happenstance and that a serious investigation only started happening a couple of months ago. Let's say that several of my associates have raised questions about me.

Shouldn't a massive investigation require time - including more than just several months? And shouldn't it be fully funded and fully staffed to either  clear my name or prosecute me?
If a fully funded investigation has been going on for months and has still found absolutely no evidence to back up these claims then maybe questions should be asked about whether such an investigation is justified.

As for 'clearing names' its not the job of an FBI or police investigation to 'clear' anybody's name. If they don't find evidence that can be given to a prosecutor and they stop investigating the that's it. 'Clearing' people is something done by courts, not by police or FBI.

As for your suggestion that this whole thing started by 'happenstance' that's highly doubtful. Much more likely that this has been a witch hunt from the very start.

You're are an amazing voice of reason. It's refreshing.

This site used to actually be a reasonable place for people to discuss politics and election strategies without the annoying 'bumper sticker' politics.

Now it's just bumper sticker politics.

Is that really true? This forum has ALWAYS been on the far-left side of the political spectrum.

Even the so-called "moderates" are rather center-left. The main website has always been a great repository of elections data. The maps and statistics are virtually unmatched by any resource anywhere. Yet for some reason, the forum attracts far more socialists and communists than right-wing conservatives.

The few conservatives here are constantly hounded, and consistently the subject of petitions to be banned. Anyone that doesn't toe the far-left line is ridiculed.

If you look at the self-reported political positions of the forum, and the predictions of said forum, you'd find something squarely in the mainstream.... of DailyKos or Democratic Underground.

Is it uncomfortable up on that cross?

Someone just reported one of my post.

I didn't violate any rules on this site.

They reported it because they didn't like my opinion.
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« Reply #222 on: May 09, 2017, 07:35:32 PM »


Good riddance.
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« Reply #223 on: May 09, 2017, 07:36:58 PM »

Regarding Feinstein she's called for an independent FBI Director and said the president called her. She didn't indicate whether she supported it or not. Still looking on that.

Politically this also hurts Trump but no more than usual. Trumpy continues to divide the country and harden his opposition with each passing day while allowing a narrative about him and Russia to flourish without being resolved. Perhaps he's decided this is the best he can expect from his presidency. I don't think his party has much expectations at this point for a era of goodwill under him.
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« Reply #224 on: May 09, 2017, 07:38:29 PM »

I for one think there should be an independent investigation just to close this once and for all, but my belief is not because of the firing of Comey. This is just a stupid attempt to make Trump seem corrupt.
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