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slimey56
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« on: November 01, 2022, 10:14:05 AM »

All 6% of private sector workers who are members of unions (many of whom are involuntarily members in blue states without right to work) will be very owned by this decision. North Alabama voters will come out in droves for the teamsters union.

1. You realize this decision impacts not only private-sector unions such as Teamsters or non AFL-CIO affiliates such as the SEIU, but also public-sector organizations affiliated with the AFL-CIO right? Furthermore, how can you view the unfettered ability to strike as only affecting currently unionized shops given A) CBAs overall lead to greater employee bargaining power as open shops subsequently raise compensation to deincentivize organization and B) these types of negotiating tactics stem the "open-door policy" of employers who seek to divide and conquer when labor disputes arise (you can argue this becomes a negative in some cases such as police unions but overall it's a massive net positive).

2. Lemme tell ya something and you listen to me good: My mom-mom has enjoyed a comfortable retirement thanks to her own teamsters' pension and my pop-pop's which he left her in his will. My dad's best friend was in Teamsters at DHL for 16 years and his retirement package is greater than my old man's NALC stipend from being at the post office for 26. So criticize their racially charged hiring practices and corrupt leadership all you want, but don't you dare ever suggest they don't take care of their own.
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sting in the rafters
slimey56
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2022, 04:35:51 PM »

All 6% of private sector workers who are members of unions (many of whom are involuntarily members in blue states without right to work) will be very owned by this decision. North Alabama voters will come out in droves for the teamsters union.

1. You realize this decision impacts not only private-sector unions such as Teamsters or non AFL-CIO affiliates such as the SEIU, but also public-sector organizations affiliated with the AFL-CIO right? Furthermore, how can you view the unfettered ability to strike as only affecting currently unionized shops given A) CBAs overall lead to greater employee bargaining power as open shops subsequently raise compensation to deincentivize organization and B) these types of negotiating tactics stem the "open-door policy" of employers who seek to divide and conquer when labor disputes arise (you can argue this becomes a negative in some cases such as police unions but overall it's a massive net positive).

2. Lemme tell ya something and you listen to me good: My mom-mom has enjoyed a comfortable retirement thanks to her own teamsters' pension and my pop-pop's which he left her in his will. My dad's best friend was in Teamsters at DHL for 16 years and his retirement package is greater than my old man's NALC stipend from being at the post office for 26. So criticize their racially charged hiring practices and corrupt leadership all you want, but don't you dare ever suggest they don't take care of their own.

1. Okay. Bump the number up to 10%, congrats.

2. Oh, I would never suggest the teamsters don't take care of their own. I'd just suggest that they're corrupt, extortionary organizations that rely on government force to take away freedom.

1. Again, non-unionized employees depend on the same prevailing wage requirements set in trade CBAs. Likewise there exists substantial research that areas with greater unionization drives up buying power for all workers as it becomes a bargaining chip among managerial considerations when setting pay in open shops. It's rather disingenuous to imply this court ruling only affects currently organized laborers, and the description of "relying on government force" is rather ironic given the history of federal institutions suppressing union activity

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_(detective_agency)
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