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« on: December 09, 2018, 02:58:23 PM »

I'm no fan of AOC.
That said, conservatives' obsession with her (especially when they turn a blind eye to the constant stream of BS flowing from the White House) is deeply disturbing and ought to be studied by psychiatrists.

Cortez Derangement Syndrome
I've said at least 40 bad things about Trump for every bad thing I've said about AOC.
I wish I had a dollar for every time an Atlas leftist used "but Trump!" as a response to criticism of a Democratic candidate.
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2018, 03:44:15 PM »

I'm no fan of AOC.
That said, conservatives' obsession with her (especially when they turn a blind eye to the constant stream of BS flowing from the White House) is deeply disturbing and ought to be studied by psychiatrists.

Cortez Derangement Syndrome
I've said at least 40 bad things about Trump for every bad thing I've said about AOC.
I wish I had a dollar for every time an Atlas leftist used "but Trump!" as a response to criticism of a Democratic candidate.

To all, maybe because, a, trump literally says 10 times more stupid things, both in terms of quality and quantity, then literally every Democrat combined, and what's more B, AOC is a freshman Congress Woman versus Trump being the freaking POTUS makes 8 just teensy-weensy little bit of difference in importance.

Seriously. Ignoring the absolute sh**tbird craziness from Trump versus whatever latest gaffe AOC says is like ignoring armed robbery buy one side and focusing on jaywalking by the other. Justice response is literally as silly as saying I wish I had a dollar for everytime Democrats pointed out Trump's armed robbery for every time we point out some random Congress crater commits jaywalking.

Being a freshman Congresswoman isn't an excuse for making such uninformed statements to the public. If she doesn't understand what she's talking about, as she's clearly displayed many times, she shouldn't talk about it like she does. That applies to any politician, including Trump. When she continues doing this, people are right to call her out on it. She doesn't deserve a free pass.

As much as the left wants to claim that the right has an obsession with AOC, they really should be questioning why she brings criticism upon herself so often instead of staying quiet on issues she doesn't understand and preparing for her new job.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2018, 04:02:00 PM »

Being a freshman Congresswoman isn't an excuse for making such uninformed statements to the public. If she doesn't understand what she's talking about, as she's clearly displayed many times, she shouldn't talk about it like she does. That applies to any politician, including Trump. When she continues doing this, people are right to call her out on it. She doesn't deserve a free pass.

As much as the left wants to claim that the right has an obsession with AOC, they really should be questioning why she brings criticism upon herself so often instead of staying quiet on issues she doesn't understand and preparing for her new job.

Your criticism would have been more credible if the majority of the Republican caucus weren't climate change deniers and creationists.

Your response would have been taken seriously if you bothered to read where I said this applied to any politician.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2018, 05:29:44 PM »

Being a freshman Congresswoman isn't an excuse for making such uninformed statements to the public. If she doesn't understand what she's talking about, as she's clearly displayed many times, she shouldn't talk about it like she does. That applies to any politician, including Trump. When she continues doing this, people are right to call her out on it. She doesn't deserve a free pass.

As much as the left wants to claim that the right has an obsession with AOC, they really should be questioning why she brings criticism upon herself so often instead of staying quiet on issues she doesn't understand and preparing for her new job.

Your criticism would have been more credible if the majority of the Republican caucus weren't climate change deniers and creationists.

Your response would have been taken seriously if you bothered to read where I said this applied to any politician.

So what? That doesn't prevent Republican troglodytes from attacking her while ignoring their own know-nothingism.
Then reply to them, because nothing I said suggests Republicans get a free pass too.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2018, 05:35:44 PM »

Being a freshman Congresswoman isn't an excuse for making such uninformed statements to the public. If she doesn't understand what she's talking about, as she's clearly displayed many times, she shouldn't talk about it like she does. That applies to any politician, including Trump. When she continues doing this, people are right to call her out on it. She doesn't deserve a free pass.

As much as the left wants to claim that the right has an obsession with AOC, they really should be questioning why she brings criticism upon herself so often instead of staying quiet on issues she doesn't understand and preparing for her new job.

Your criticism would have been more credible if the majority of the Republican caucus weren't climate change deniers and creationists.

Your response would have been taken seriously if you bothered to read where I said this applied to any politician.

But the point remains, shouldn't this role perhaps, just possibly, apply a teensy-weensy bit more to the president of the United States then to a fresh woman in Congress? Particularly when by any meaningful objective standards the former does so on a far far greater and more numerous basis?

I'm not sure what part of "That applies to any politician, including Trump" is so difficult for you to understand. When Trump says dumb things, he deserves to be called out on it. When AOC says dumb things, she deserves it too. If people are dumb to think that being new to politics gives her a free pass, then the same should apply to Trump. To think otherwise is just being a hypocrite.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2018, 06:14:31 PM »

Being a freshman Congresswoman isn't an excuse for making such uninformed statements to the public. If she doesn't understand what she's talking about, as she's clearly displayed many times, she shouldn't talk about it like she does. That applies to any politician, including Trump. When she continues doing this, people are right to call her out on it. She doesn't deserve a free pass.

As much as the left wants to claim that the right has an obsession with AOC, they really should be questioning why she brings criticism upon herself so often instead of staying quiet on issues she doesn't understand and preparing for her new job.

Your criticism would have been more credible if the majority of the Republican caucus weren't climate change deniers and creationists.

Your response would have been taken seriously if you bothered to read where I said this applied to any politician.

But the point remains, shouldn't this role perhaps, just possibly, apply a teensy-weensy bit more to the president of the United States then to a fresh woman in Congress? Particularly when by any meaningful objective standards the former does so on a far far greater and more numerous basis?

I'm not sure what part of "That applies to any politician, including Trump" is so difficult for you to understand. When Trump says dumb things, he deserves to be called out on it. When AOC says dumb things, she deserves it too. If people are dumb to think that being new to politics gives her a free pass, then the same should apply to Trump. To think otherwise is just being a hypocrite.
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Except it isn't because Trump is in a much more powerful position. Trump being new to politics doesn't affect his power that much because there's only one president and he has vast powers designated by the constitution.

AOC, on the other hand, has her power noticeably reduced by her freshman status because seniority matters a lot in the House. So not identical situations at all.

All politicians should be held to that standard, regardless of position and how much power they hold.
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