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« on: November 10, 2020, 12:26:31 AM »

What’s the next midterm that doesn’t go against the President’s party?
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2020, 12:33:17 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2020, 01:15:40 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

That's actually pretty plausible, especially if Republicans overplay their hand in obstructing him.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2020, 01:18:54 AM »

2022, due to fact Biden flipped WI and PA and GA back blue and NC Jeff Jackson doesn't have the Cunningham problem

The Redistricting isn't gonna go against D's decisively like years past, the D Govs in Midwest unlike before are gonna help D's win swing districts back they lost in 2020, but since D's didn't flip TX and TX state Houses, those seats are gonna net gain R seats

Rs controlled Redistricting in the Midwest due to Synder and Wakker
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2020, 01:42:46 AM »

Sometime in the 2040s when a climate crisis and economic collapse leads to a political realignment led by an FDR-like figure. The current political landscape makes it almost impossible for any President, Democrat or Republican, to have a favorable midterm for at least the next decade.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2020, 01:44:54 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

It’d be the 20th anniversary of the last favorable midterm for an incumbent President so there’s that lol
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2020, 01:50:56 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

In 2018 the economy was going very well, still the elections were a bloodbath....

As for Biden the guy has been elected on the message that ,, at least he is not Trump '' ; for 40% of Biden voters that was the main reason of their vote, not sure that his support in the electorate runs very deep.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2020, 01:59:01 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

In 2018 the economy was going very well, still the elections were a bloodbath....

As for Biden the guy has been elected on the message that ,, at least he is not Trump '' ; for 40% of Biden voters that was the main reason of their vote, not sure that his support in the electorate runs very deep.

The economy was going well and the majority of the country still disliked Trump and wanted to put a check on him.

And as for Biden, his support might seem shallow, but give him two years as a popular incumbent and anything is possible.

I'm not saying Biden is going to be popular, but there is a possibility that Biden might be popular. That could lead to a good mid-term for democrats in 2022 as a result.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2020, 02:04:34 AM »
« Edited: November 10, 2020, 02:13:56 AM by Taking the D out of Driftless :( »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

That's actually pretty plausible, especially if Republicans overplay their hand in obstructing him.

See signature. Popular and uncontroversial Biden + Truman campaign against Senate/turning Mitch McConnell into the new grand Democratic common enemy = D midterm under D president?
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2020, 02:09:31 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

In 2018 the economy was going very well, still the elections were a bloodbath....

As for Biden the guy has been elected on the message that ,, at least he is not Trump '' ; for 40% of Biden voters that was the main reason of their vote, not sure that his support in the electorate runs very deep.

The economy was going well and the majority of the country still disliked Trump and wanted to put a check on him.

And as for Biden, his support might seem shallow, but give him two years as a popular incumbent and anything is possible.

I'm not saying Biden is going to be popular, but there is a possibility that Biden might be popular. That could lead to a good mid-term for democrats in 2022 as a result.

It's hard to see because either

1. he decides to act like Obama did between 2011 and 2017, in other words he governs by executive orders and does what he can to implement the liberal agenda without legislative input (very likely).

2. he decides to govern as a third way democrat (aka Bill Clinton) and find compromises with Mitch, but in a such scenario the left wing of the democratic party would go nuclear on him and a large share of the democratic electorate simply refuse to vote in midterms*

*and obviously Warren and AOC would try to punish the ''traitors'' by involving themselves in democratic primaries accross the country.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2020, 02:12:46 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

In 2018 the economy was going very well, still the elections were a bloodbath....

As for Biden the guy has been elected on the message that ,, at least he is not Trump '' ; for 40% of Biden voters that was the main reason of their vote, not sure that his support in the electorate runs very deep.

I happen to agree that it's very unlikely for the same reason but you could argue the situation might end up closer to 2002 than 2010 or 2018 if the vaccine is actually successful and the "defeat" of many of the effects of coronavirus is treated like a foreign policy success (in the way Bush was rewarded in the aftermath of 9/11). It's not yet completely out of the realm of possibility, especially if they actually hold the Senate this year.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2020, 02:41:22 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

In 2018 the economy was going very well, still the elections were a bloodbath....

As for Biden the guy has been elected on the message that ,, at least he is not Trump '' ; for 40% of Biden voters that was the main reason of their vote, not sure that his support in the electorate runs very deep.

I happen to agree that it's very unlikely for the same reason but you could argue the situation might end up closer to 2002 than 2010 or 2018 if the vaccine is actually successful and the "defeat" of many of the effects of coronavirus is treated like a foreign policy success (in the way Bush was rewarded in the aftermath of 9/11). It's not yet completely out of the realm of possibility, especially if they actually hold the Senate this year.
Would people (who are not already Biden fans) really give credit to Biden for a vaccine for which he has no merit ? Very sceptic about that
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2020, 02:45:03 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

In 2018 the economy was going very well, still the elections were a bloodbath....

As for Biden the guy has been elected on the message that ,, at least he is not Trump '' ; for 40% of Biden voters that was the main reason of their vote, not sure that his support in the electorate runs very deep.

I happen to agree that it's very unlikely for the same reason but you could argue the situation might end up closer to 2002 than 2010 or 2018 if the vaccine is actually successful and the "defeat" of many of the effects of coronavirus is treated like a foreign policy success (in the way Bush was rewarded in the aftermath of 9/11). It's not yet completely out of the realm of possibility, especially if they actually hold the Senate this year.
Would people (who are not already Biden fans) really give credit to Biden for a vaccine for which he has no merit ? Very sceptic about that

I'm skeptical too, but stranger things have happened particularly with regards to COVID-19 and public opinion. If Republican low-propensity voters don't show up as much in the midterms, Biden could do ok by holding onto an abnormally high proportion of his presidential coalition, which might be inclined to credit him with "the end of lockdowns"/a good COVID-19 response.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2020, 03:04:51 AM »

Theres always 2022.....

Think about it. A noncontroversial Biden leading during an economic recovery and widespread availability of a Covid vaccine. He might end up pretty popular.

Hey, a man can dream.  Tongue

In 2018 the economy was going very well, still the elections were a bloodbath....

As for Biden the guy has been elected on the message that ,, at least he is not Trump '' ; for 40% of Biden voters that was the main reason of their vote, not sure that his support in the electorate runs very deep.

I happen to agree that it's very unlikely for the same reason but you could argue the situation might end up closer to 2002 than 2010 or 2018 if the vaccine is actually successful and the "defeat" of many of the effects of coronavirus is treated like a foreign policy success (in the way Bush was rewarded in the aftermath of 9/11). It's not yet completely out of the realm of possibility, especially if they actually hold the Senate this year.
Would people (who are not already Biden fans) really give credit to Biden for a vaccine for which he has no merit ? Very sceptic about that

I'm skeptical too, but stranger things have happened particularly with regards to COVID-19 and public opinion. If Republican low-propensity voters don't show up as much in the midterms, Biden could do ok by holding onto an abnormally high proportion of his presidential coalition, which might be inclined to credit him with "the end of lockdowns"/a good COVID-19 response.

I think you’re too optimistic Smiley
If Biden voters are happy the most likely scenario is that most of them stop caring about politics altogether and don’t turn-out in drove. You know, hate and anger are far better motivators than happiness.
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