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pbrower2a
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« on: August 04, 2014, 02:34:34 AM »

The "sovereign citizens" are from American culture. To become a "sovereign citizen" one must simply intensify the belief in certain threads of American culture. Then one can have a distorted view of American history and adopt an extremist ideology and a proclivity for violence as one is brainwashed.

To be an Islamic extremist one must first be a Muslim. For most Americans such requires a conversion, hardly an easy one if one has a strong tie to any non-Muslim culture, in itself, and then be attracted to thuggery that has a veneer of Islam.

The conversion from "decent person" to "terrorist" is more difficult than a religious conversion.

OK, we are not out of danger if the threat from "sovereign citizens" subsides. Extreme ideologues which Eric Hoffer called True Believers may find themselves disillusioned with a cause after some ruin of the cause or being on the wrong side of some in-fighting, only to find a vacuum to be filled only by another extremist cause. Many fascists and Nazis were renegade socialists and communists. After World War II, rank-and-file members of the fascistic Iron Guard of Romania and the Arrow Cross of Hungary discovered that their proclivity for dirty work made them just the people to do the dirty work for what were recently-tiny Communist Parties. Low-level Nazis were easy marks for Communist brainwashing in the Soviet zone of occupation -- far easier than liberals and democratic socialists. Some Nazis found that their hatred for Jews and Judaism as well as their technical skills could serve Islamic countries hostile to the "Zionist entity".       
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 05:29:59 AM »

The "sovereign citizens" are from American culture. To become a "sovereign citizen" one must simply intensify the belief in certain threads of American culture. Then one can have a distorted view of American history and adopt an extremist ideology and a proclivity for violence as one is brainwashed.

No. "Sovereign citizens" isn't an issue only in USA. It is an issue in other countries.

The reference is to the United States.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 07:13:57 PM »

From Wikipedia:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Forde
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2014, 09:12:24 PM »

Left-wingers have a long history of committing political atrocities that have resulted in the deaths of thousands to millions; from the Reign of Terror all the way up to the Cambodian Genocide.

Communism as a murderous ideology is also a dying ideology.

The Atlantic slave trade and the mistreatment of First Peoples of the Americas both killed millions -- and we hardly see those as a current threat of mass death. Christians are culpable for the Crusades, witch hunts, and the Inquisition. No Christian organization now endorses those.

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Extreme leftists have become irrelevant as genuine threats of mass murder.  Organized crime, which is difficult to place on the left-right continuum, is now far more likely to cause death than extreme leftists in America. Bloods? Crips? MS-13? Much more dangerous than old left-wing phantoms.   

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Hal Turner is a piece of work. Agents-provocateurs are untrustworthy as a rule. 
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