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Sbane
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« on: March 30, 2013, 09:28:45 PM »
« edited: March 30, 2013, 09:33:35 PM by Sbane »

Maybe environmentalists care about the environment as a whole around the world and not just in America?

As for immigration reform, I do think more H1B visas and in general more high skilled immigration should be allowed. That will allow us to not become another Europe. On the other hand, I don't know how much low skilled immigration helps the US. Do we really need people coming over the border to flip burgers and build houses? Maybe farm work, sure, but even there we can get out fruits and vegetables from overseas. Grains are more or less automated AFAIK.

In any case, I am not sure why this bill would lead to more immigration. Do you mean the greater numbers of high skilled immigrants this bill would allow? You do realize that is necessary, right?
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 11:40:13 PM »

Maybe environmentalists care about the environment as a whole around the world and not just in America?

As for immigration reform, I do think more H1B visas and in general more high skilled immigration should be allowed. That will allow us to not become another Europe. On the other hand, I don't know how much low skilled immigration helps the US. Do we really need people coming over the border to flip burgers and build houses? Maybe farm work, sure, but even there we can get out fruits and vegetables from overseas. Grains are more or less automated AFAIK.

In any case, I am not sure why this bill would lead to more immigration. Do you mean the greater numbers of high skilled immigrants this bill would allow? You do realize that is necessary, right?
Explain? Also from a labor perspective H1-B visas should be completely outlawed, anybody let into the country should have full labor rights right away.

Europe's structural problems are due to it having too many dependents as compared to workers. This is due to their aging population. High immigration can alleviate that problem, especially high skilled immigration since they generate a lot of tax revenue. Europe is not welcoming to immigrants, and the only ones they welcome are refugees.

What rights do H1B's not have? A green card takes too long to process so a company must have some way of bringing someone over without having to wait years. I guess you could make it mandatory that a company has to start processing a green card for someone if they bring them over from another country. Is that what you would like?
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 06:45:06 AM »

Maybe environmentalists care about the environment as a whole around the world and not just in America?

As for immigration reform, I do think more H1B visas and in general more high skilled immigration should be allowed. That will allow us to not become another Europe. On the other hand, I don't know how much low skilled immigration helps the US. Do we really need people coming over the border to flip burgers and build houses? Maybe farm work, sure, but even there we can get out fruits and vegetables from overseas. Grains are more or less automated AFAIK.

In any case, I am not sure why this bill would lead to more immigration. Do you mean the greater numbers of high skilled immigrants this bill would allow? You do realize that is necessary, right?
Explain? Also from a labor perspective H1-B visas should be completely outlawed, anybody let into the country should have full labor rights right away.

Europe's structural problems are due to it having too many dependents as compared to workers. This is due to their aging population. High immigration can alleviate that problem, especially high skilled immigration since they generate a lot of tax revenue. Europe is not welcoming to immigrants, and the only ones they welcome are refugees.

What rights do H1B's not have? A green card takes too long to process so a company must have some way of bringing someone over without having to wait years. I guess you could make it mandatory that a company has to start processing a green card for someone if they bring them over from another country. Is that what you would like?
You are looking at this from a business perspective. The government controls the entire process, it can reduce the qualifications necessary to get a greencard, and end H1-B program. Force all employers to give their employees permanent residency.

Yes, that would be fine, and businesses wouldn't mind at all. It's just politically impossible to pass something like that due to the Republicans.
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