Across Europe, the Left is Waning

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think Gully is as usual displaying extreme ignorance and essentially showing the inability to tell the difference between *the entire American Libertarian Party and movement* and *a handful of whackjobs on the internet and the writers of LewRockwell.com* He is doing the equivalent of someone with absolutely no prior understanding of American politics visiting DU and then coming to the conclusion that it is a perfect representation of the Democratic Party.

[minionofmidas]

I think Gully is as usual displaying extreme ignorance and essentially showing the inability to tell the difference between *the entire American Libertarian Party and movement* and *a handful of whackjobs on the internet and the writers of LewRockwell.com* He is doing the equivalent of someone with absolutely no prior understanding of American politics visiting DU and then coming to the conclusion that it is a perfect representation of the Democratic Party.

No.

[GMantis]

I think Gully is as usual displaying extreme ignorance and essentially showing the inability to tell the difference between *the entire American Libertarian Party and movement* and *a handful of whackjobs on the internet and the writers of LewRockwell.com* He is doing the equivalent of someone with absolutely no prior understanding of American politics visiting DU and then coming to the conclusion that it is a perfect representation of the Democratic Party.

I would say that Randism is very influential in the US. And regardless of what they call themselves, they come very close to being fascist.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I think Gully is as usual displaying extreme ignorance and essentially showing the inability to tell the difference between *the entire American Libertarian Party and movement* and *a handful of whackjobs on the internet and the writers of LewRockwell.com* He is doing the equivalent of someone with absolutely no prior understanding of American politics visiting DU and then coming to the conclusion that it is a perfect representation of the Democratic Party.

Does this really need a intelligent response?

Randism in its worst forms is mostly personal egotism (and insecurity o/c - mostly of white middle to upper-middle class males obviously) projected onto political space. Followed by cult-like tendencies and a bizarre pseudohistory which often involves a worship or reference of a fantastical American Past with a strongly nationalist or at least national-centric flavour which never existed (the common argument here is "we have long deserted the ideals of founding fathers" or something similiar. What, like Slavery?) but was eventually destroyed by its enemies; bureaucrats, intellectuals, democrats and similiar types (read: often the New Deal) but most eventually be reclaimed from these 'enemies'. This is obviously perfect for conspiracy theories. Thinking of it like this shows why it so very unsurprisingly that all the conspiracy kooks supported Ron Paul in the election, and why it can easily blur (and those LewRockell freaks show it) into Anti-Semitism, Racism, etc.

And that's just for starters.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think Gully is as usual displaying extreme ignorance and essentially showing the inability to tell the difference between *the entire American Libertarian Party and movement* and *a handful of whackjobs on the internet and the writers of LewRockwell.com* He is doing the equivalent of someone with absolutely no prior understanding of American politics visiting DU and then coming to the conclusion that it is a perfect representation of the Democratic Party.

I would say that Randism is very influential in the US. And regardless of what they call themselves, they come very close to being fascist.

That explains the hordes of elected politicians following it and Ron Paul's very strong campaign that narrowly failed in winning the GOP nomination. Or not.

Neoconservatives are a much bigger threat and were far more effective in implementing fascist policies than any crazy libertarians.

[Iosif]

As I've been saying, Europe is a great place these days. 

Yeah, the BNP have just won 2 MEP seats. Wonderful place.

Sometimes I think there should be a age limit on this place.

[Hash]

As I've been saying, Europe is a great place these days. 

Yeah, the BNP have just won 2 MEP seats. Wonderful place.

Sometimes I think there should be a age limit on this place.

And 3 Hungarian Nazis.

So, 5 Nazis. And I'm not using the word Nazi liberally and stupidly. Jobbik has its own army and marches around in 1930s fascist Hungarian attire.

However, the Greenies have over 50 seats now in Europe, a slightly positive note. And the Socialists have suffered a trouncing in many places.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

As I've been saying, Europe is a great place these days. 

Yeah, the BNP have just won 2 MEP seats. Wonderful place.

Sometimes I think there should be a age limit on this place.

The fact that Labour voters were so disillusioned by Gordon Brown's leadership that they chose the racist and economically leftist BNP as an alternative should not take away from the fact that the center-right was on the rise across Europe.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

As I've been saying, Europe is a great place these days. 

Yeah, the BNP have just won 2 MEP seats. Wonderful place.

Sometimes I think there should be a age limit on this place.

The fact that Labour voters were so disillusioned by Gordon Brown's leadership that they chose the racist and economically leftist BNP as an alternative should not take away from the fact that the center-right was on the rise across Europe.

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Ad naseum.

[Keystone Phil]

As I've been saying, Europe is a great place these days. 

Yeah, the BNP have just won 2 MEP seats. Wonderful place.

Yeah because we all know I made this statement after their victory and was obviously talking about their win. 

Or I'm happy that the center right did well. Yeah, or that.

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Same here but I'm sure you'd still find a way to sneek on.

[The Mikado]

Just because PS and Labour are competing for the title of suckiest major party in Europe doesn't mean that the Left is fading.  PD in Italy didn't do that terribly, the rest of the French left fared pretty well (look at the Greens!), SPD had an bad election due to the turnout but the German Greens did pretty well, etc.

[Keystone Phil]

PD in Italy didn't do that terribly

As I said elsewhere, they did exactly what they were expected to do which isn't that horrible but still pretty damn horrible (especially when you consider that Berlusconi's crew underperformed by about five points and PD still couldn't capitalize).

I think PD is in contention for suckiest major party in Europe, too, by the way. Or are we not calling them a major party anymore? 

[Hash]

Just because PS and Labour are competing for the title of suckiest major party in Europe doesn't mean that the Left is fading.  PD in Italy didn't do that terribly, the rest of the French left fared pretty well (look at the Greens!), SPD had an bad election due to the turnout but the German Greens did pretty well, etc.

Undeniably, European social democrats did badly. France, UK, Germany, Spain, Portugal, even their Czech result is deceiving for them (though Paroubek is an idiot), Wallonia (even if Belgian people are stupid enough to still place the crooks in front). Greenies, on the other hand.