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Derek
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« on: July 18, 2010, 02:24:43 PM »

Thune has been pretty successful in South Dakota politics, serving three terms in the House and is probably going to win re-election in the Senate with ease this year.  He has charm, charisma and he's family-oriented. 

For those of you that see my posts, you know I'm a moderate, "RINO" I suppose.  That being said, I would strongly support Thune for 2012.

1) He comes from an outside state, SD, which could serve as an advantage, similar to Carter (GA) in 1976.

2) He has the conservative establishment behind him

3) He doesn't come across as one of those ignorant types.  For example, he's said that while he is strongly pro life and against gay marriage, he understands and RESPECTS the other side's opinion.  The tolerance factor I like.

4) He's a very good speaker and doesn't make gaffes.

5) From what I read, his record is clean.  There is no dirty work on him, which is an advantage.

6) His location in the Plains/Midwest could be an advantage to the GOP, which is rtying to still break into the upper midwest (although we got IA back in 2004

7) He's got charisma.

While the cupboard appears bare, I think this is our man for 2012, or maybe 2016, if he feels 2012 becomes unwinnable depending on the economy in the next two years.

Charm, charisma, and speaking is good for hollywood and bad for the country. South Dakota is a state that is at a big disadvantage size wise to build a base. The establishment of the GOP would support him, but that's any nominee. However, he would have an advantage in IA and MN. Record and gaffes are fine right now but the liberal media will create them for him which is something Republicans just have to deal with. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see any GOP beat Obama in the next election, but I think he's more of a running mate.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 02:41:05 PM »

This thread is pretty indicative of how clueless the Republicans are. If they really think nominating George W. Bush III is their "best chance", Obama might as well just go on vacation for Campaign 2012.
George W. Bush's political views are somewhat in line with Republican voters. The ideal candidate you have, which is much more libertarian, has little to no chance. I doubt even a moderate will be able to win. In 2012, Republicans will try as hard as possible to get a conservative candidate nominated.

John Thune is even more out-of-touch with Americans than John McCain was. He doesn't appeal to conservatives, he doesn't appeal to liberals, he doesn't appeal to moderates, he doesn't appeal to libertarians, he doesn't appeal to the tea parties.

In fact, a guy who voted for TARP is liable to incite a third-party tea party challenge. And remember, this won't be like 2008 again: the tea parties have infiltrated the GOP itself in many places.

 The only people who seem to support Thune are those in his strange and unwarranted personality cult.

Right because a libertarian would definitely be a better option for the GOP
lolololololololololololololololoolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thune is the most in touch candidate I can think of. He has 2 kids and a wife and is from rural South Dakota. Didn't you see the ads about his girls saying "vote for our dad" while his wife was making breakfast for everyone before they started their day? Now that's an American family.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 04:20:25 PM »

This thread is pretty indicative of how clueless the Republicans are. If they really think nominating George W. Bush III is their "best chance", Obama might as well just go on vacation for Campaign 2012.
George W. Bush's political views are somewhat in line with Republican voters. The ideal candidate you have, which is much more libertarian, has little to no chance. I doubt even a moderate will be able to win. In 2012, Republicans will try as hard as possible to get a conservative candidate nominated.

John Thune is even more out-of-touch with Americans than John McCain was. He doesn't appeal to conservatives, he doesn't appeal to liberals, he doesn't appeal to moderates, he doesn't appeal to libertarians, he doesn't appeal to the tea parties.

In fact, a guy who voted for TARP is liable to incite a third-party tea party challenge. And remember, this won't be like 2008 again: the tea parties have infiltrated the GOP itself in many places.

 The only people who seem to support Thune are those in his strange and unwarranted personality cult.

Right because a libertarian would definitely be a better option for the GOP
lolololololololololololololololoolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thune is the most in touch candidate I can think of. He has 2 kids and a wife and is from rural South Dakota. Didn't you see the ads about his girls saying "vote for our dad" while his wife was making breakfast for everyone before they started their day? Now that's an American family.

Obama can make an ad like that as well.

And no one would EVER believe that a family like his is like that. Oh yea that's right the first lady doesn't have maids and servants to wait on her hand and foot is what people will believe outside of your party. Plus he's from Chicago where the traditional and rural American family life style is looked down up and crime runs rampant alongside backroom political deals. Obama has never been seen as in touch or one of the regular people.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 04:53:04 PM »

This thread is pretty indicative of how clueless the Republicans are. If they really think nominating George W. Bush III is their "best chance", Obama might as well just go on vacation for Campaign 2012.
George W. Bush's political views are somewhat in line with Republican voters. The ideal candidate you have, which is much more libertarian, has little to no chance. I doubt even a moderate will be able to win. In 2012, Republicans will try as hard as possible to get a conservative candidate nominated.

John Thune is even more out-of-touch with Americans than John McCain was. He doesn't appeal to conservatives, he doesn't appeal to liberals, he doesn't appeal to moderates, he doesn't appeal to libertarians, he doesn't appeal to the tea parties.

In fact, a guy who voted for TARP is liable to incite a third-party tea party challenge. And remember, this won't be like 2008 again: the tea parties have infiltrated the GOP itself in many places.

 The only people who seem to support Thune are those in his strange and unwarranted personality cult.

Right because a libertarian would definitely be a better option for the GOP
lolololololololololololololololoolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thune is the most in touch candidate I can think of. He has 2 kids and a wife and is from rural South Dakota. Didn't you see the ads about his girls saying "vote for our dad" while his wife was making breakfast for everyone before they started their day? Now that's an American family.

Obama can make an ad like that as well.

And no one would EVER believe that a family like his is like that. Oh yea that's right the first lady doesn't have maids and servants to wait on her hand and foot is what people will believe outside of your party. Plus he's from Chicago where the traditional and rural American family life style is looked down up and crime runs rampant alongside backroom political deals. Obama has never been seen as in touch or one of the regular people.

So you're saying that an African-American family isn't really American? Shame on you. And most Americans lived in urban areas for 90 years now. No one cares anymore whether a candidate is from an urban or rural area. There is a lot of crime and corruption in most cities in the U.S. What's your point? And Obama is more of an average guy than both Bushes ever were. Obama was born middle class and had to work his way up, while the Bushes just inherited a lot of money from their families and had everything given to them.

No what are you talking about? You're off subject and trolling. Stop trying to use race to score a political point!!! No it's not the area they're from but the lifestyle they live and no one ever said it wasn't. Obama was given everything for free. Welfare as a child, grants as a student, all paid for by our tax dollars.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 07:47:59 PM »

Obama is at 41% in Colorado.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 07:59:41 PM »

The thing is, how would Thune match up against Obama in Colorado?  Honestly I have no idea.

It's a reddish purple state. Thune would win.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 05:47:47 PM »

I like Thune's young family man approach, but he's not ready yet. Someone with governing and military experience is needed for the job with us fighting 2 wars and being so far in debt.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 07:03:06 PM »

I like Thune's young family man approach, but he's not ready yet. Someone with governing and military experience is needed for the job with us fighting 2 wars and being so far in debt.

Iraq is going to be over at the end of 2011, so we're only going to be fighting one war in 2012.

I'm not sure how you already know this. Obama never said it would be over and only suggested that we'd be bringing some troops home. I hope we're not in any wars but until Al-Qaida is gone we will always be at war.
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