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« on: June 06, 2008, 06:09:15 PM »
« edited: June 06, 2008, 06:12:17 PM by Let's Start a Riot »

Who wants to go against me? My whole idea is that all you have to do is post platforms and speeches, and org points. This costs money and you can get endorsements from Special Interest groups and you can fundraise.  You would also have a maximum of 7 speeches per week.

Org levels:
level 3: 200,000$ x state's EV's
level 2: 150,000$ x state's EV's
level 1: 100,000$ x state's EV's

There will be levels of strength and you can post where you think they can be. In this scenario you can create your own party. The scenario is where America is at war with Iran, and there is huge recession. Leftism was very popular at first but there is a huge backlash against it because of radicalism among students.(there is a draft)
Here is an example of how to start out:
Name:Alex Hernandez
Position: Congressman from California
Party: Progressive Party
Vice-Presidential Candidate: Bernie Sanders

Platform(include major issues at least):
bla bla bla

Support(list which states your party has "major" support in):
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 06:14:30 PM »

Joe tried something like this (though even more complex) and failed. Are you sure you're up to it? Then again, summer is coming soon...
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 06:17:55 PM »

Joe tried something like this (though even more complex) and failed. Are you sure you're up to it? Then again, summer is coming soon...
I am up for this. I have already memorized the scenario and have been working on it for a while. It is based off of another government simulation anyways so it is proven to work.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 06:52:39 PM »

Not entirely sure I get the point of how it works out and stuff, but the multi-party part and AH scenario decided me to give it a try:

Name: Jack M. Duroy
Position: Congressman from Colorado
Party: Ecology Generation
Vice-Presidential Candidate: Will see this later. Does it have to be an actual person, since the presidential candidate is obviously invented. And I don't see a lot of moderate centrist ecologist politicians in the US that aren't jokes.

Platform(include major issues at least):

Affirmative Action: I oppose most affirmative action programs, with certain, special exceptions, made on a case by case basis.

Abortion: Pro-choice. Although not making a huge campaign issue out of it, far from it.

Stem-Cell Research: Support federal funding for it.

Gay Rights: Support civil unions for homosexual couples and equal rights regardless of sexual preference.

Second Amendment: Support mild gun control law, such as background checks and so forth.

Drug War: Support the idea of a mild drug war, but disagree with its current conduct. Will look into decriminalizing soft drugs.

Election Reform: Support proportional representation, national primary day in May or early June etc.

Illegal Immigration: Support amnesty for illegal immigrants who have found work and have no past criminal record.

Economic issues

Social Security: Support public health care system and oppose privatizing health care.

Education: Increase funding for all education levels, with emphasis on post-secondary education. Would support more scholarships.

Minimum Wage: Support raising it in current situation.

Energy Independence and the Environment: Ratify Kyoto treaty, look into clean, viable, and sound energy alternatives to oil, oppose ethanol etc. Major issue.

NASA -Space Exploration: Support some more funding for NASA, but the current situation mandates funding in other directions.

Foreign Policy:  Oppose war in Iran, Iraq and so forth. Support use of military force for humanitarian and peacekeeping primarily, but also defense if we/our allies are attacked.

Support(list which states your party has "major" support in):
Colorado
California
Alaska
Oregon
Washington
Maine
a few New England states
New York
and a lot of urban areas and college areas
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 06:54:10 PM »

Joe tried something like this (though even more complex) and failed. Are you sure you're up to it? Then again, summer is coming soon...
I am up for this. I have already memorized the scenario and have been working on it for a while. It is based off of another government simulation anyways so it is proven to work.

I love your confidence.

Name: [w/e]
Position: Senator from California
Party: Democratic Party
Vice-Presidential Candidate: Chuck Schumer

Platform(include major issues at least):

I'll get to this later.

Support(list which states your party has "major" support in):

West Coast
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 08:05:16 PM »

Here is an example of how to start out:
Name: Ben Constine
Position: Senator from Virginia
Party: Reform Party
Vice-Presidential Candidate: Blanche Lincoln

Platform(include major issues at least):
Social issues

 Affirmative Action: I oppose most affirmative action programs.

Abortion: I fully support the right to choose, although I feel Roe v. Wade is not a good decision, and should be based on the 9th Amendment’s rights, rather than a right to privacy.  I favor appointing judges who will uphold Roe and Casey.

Stem-Cell Research: I strongly support giving federal funding to stem cell research.

Gay Rights: I feel that the term “marriage” is only between a man and a woman; however, I support giving full marriage rights, like survival benefits and pensions, to homosexual couples.

Sex and Prostitution: I support a comprehensive sex-ed program, covering everything that needs to be taught about the subject, although if parents want to opt their child out then they can.  I oppose abstinence only programs, and oppose legalization of prostitution.

Second Amendment: I support mild gun control laws, such as background checks to prevent people with a history of mental illness or violent crimes from getting a gun.  However, I do not want strict gun control, outside of those limits.

Drug War: I support the drug war to some extent, although I support legalizing marijuana, since it can be a taxable product, similar to cigarettes.  If people want to use drugs in the privacy of their own homes, then they can, so long as they do not harm other people.

Election Reform: I would like to have a national primary day, sometime in May or June, although I still want the Iowa Caucus and New Hampshire Primary to come before everything else.  I favor keeping the electoral college as it is.

Illegal Immigration: I support giving amnesty to illegal immigrants who have found steady work, but we need to deport illegal immigrants who are taking away our resources without giving anything back.

Economic issues

Social Security: I strongly oppose any effort to privatize social security, although I am open to raising the retirement age to 70, and increasing taxes on social security.

Medicare: I support a health care plan where people can choose any doctor they want, and the government will pay for it. 

Welfare: We need to find ways to reduce the number of people on welfare, although I oppose the idea of cutting people off.

Education: I support the repeal of No Child Left Behind, as it requires teachers to teach by a test, which may not be the best way.  I also oppose voucher programs, and I support the federal government giving a large spending increase to public schools, so that they can retain top level teachers.

For higher education, I would like the federal and state governments to provide more scholarships, and for schools to give more in state discounts.

Minimum Wage: Support raising it and having it pegged to inflation, along with a requirement that it be raised at least every three years.

Energy Independence and the Environment: We need to research more efficient methods of fuel, in addition to decreasing our dependence on foreign oil, and ratifying the Kyoto treaty.

NASA -Space Exploration: I support giving more funding to NASA, to allow for more exploration of the moon and other planets.

Foreign Policy:  I oppose the current strategy in Iraq, and feel we need to begin withdrawing our troops as soon as possible.  However, we should leave a small number there for peacekeeping, similar to Korea and European nations.  I am strongly pro-Israel, and believe that if Israel is attacked, we should go to war to defend it.  I oppose any cuts in military spending, and support the repeal of the Patriot Act.

In regards to China, we need to issue sanctions against them, in order to pressure them to give the press more freedom, and we should not lift our sanctions against Cuba.

In Africa, we need to place pressure on dictators like Mugabe in Zimbabwe, Gaddafi in Libya, Bashir in the Sudan, Afewerki in Eritrea, and numerous others, by helping with the overthrow of these dictators, whether it is by funding opposing groups, or using military force, provided UN approval, or applying economic sanctions on these countries, to attempt to cripple their economies.

Support(list which states your party has "major" support in):
New Hampshire
New York
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
Maryland
West Virginia
The entire South
Michigan
Ohio
Indiana
The Jewish voters in every state.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 08:11:30 PM »

Oh yeah if you didn't read into this enough, you probably should all change your platforms to deal with pretty big social issues(there is a counter-cultural revolution calling for big change in America's structure to be almost hippie-socialist because of the war in Iran but issues like identifying with this movement turn off 50% of the country), we are occupying Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan and there is a large insurgency, with a draft but the catch is that terrorism is very major here and if we leave it is very possible large amounts of violence in all three countries would occur. Also there is a massive economic crisis with gas prices around the world spiking to 200$ a barrel, the morgage crisis still existing and a major economic meltdown in most of the rustbelt.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2008, 04:57:04 PM »
« Edited: June 07, 2008, 04:58:37 PM by Let's Start a Riot »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2008, 05:01:44 PM »

Deceived by Ecology Generation's performance.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2008, 05:24:53 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2008, 05:35:04 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
the Reform Party.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 05:40:13 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
the Reform Party.

Why am I so good in the Dakotas?
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2008, 06:26:14 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
the Reform Party.

Why am I so good in the Dakotas?
I forgot to say but there are some pretty big farming issues in this scenario and a big drought is happening in that area. Combine this with traditional anti-establishment stuff in the Dakotas and you get your lead there.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 06:27:57 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
the Reform Party.

Why am I so good in the Dakotas?
I forgot to say but there are some pretty big farming issues in this scenario and a big drought is happening in that area. Combine this with traditional anti-establishment stuff in the Dakotas and you get your lead there.

I see.  How am I doing in the rest of the South?
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2008, 06:33:19 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
the Reform Party.

Why am I so good in the Dakotas?
I forgot to say but there are some pretty big farming issues in this scenario and a big drought is happening in that area. Combine this with traditional anti-establishment stuff in the Dakotas and you get your lead there.

I see.  How am I doing in the rest of the South?

Pretty good, in South Carolina you are tied with the Democrats for second place, North Carolina is a dead heat, Georgia is also close, in Florida you are also performing well. In the rest of the south you are doing okay but the Reform Party never really appealed to most of it.
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2008, 06:36:15 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
the Reform Party.

Why am I so good in the Dakotas?
I forgot to say but there are some pretty big farming issues in this scenario and a big drought is happening in that area. Combine this with traditional anti-establishment stuff in the Dakotas and you get your lead there.

I see.  How am I doing in the rest of the South?

Pretty good, in South Carolina you are tied with the Democrats for second place, North Carolina is a dead heat, Georgia is also close, in Florida you are also performing well. In the rest of the south you are doing okay but the Reform Party never really appealed to most of it.

Pity.  I take it I cannot get a state-by-state breakdown of where I stand?
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2008, 06:50:09 PM »

Map so far(I added a fairly weak Republican to this scenario, someone can play as them and switch some things):

I am sure you can guess the color scale and such but even though third parties are strong in this scenario, they still have a lot of ground to cover but among businesses and special interest groups they have a lot of support.

What Party is yellow?
the Reform Party.

Why am I so good in the Dakotas?
I forgot to say but there are some pretty big farming issues in this scenario and a big drought is happening in that area. Combine this with traditional anti-establishment stuff in the Dakotas and you get your lead there.

I see.  How am I doing in the rest of the South?

Pretty good, in South Carolina you are tied with the Democrats for second place, North Carolina is a dead heat, Georgia is also close, in Florida you are also performing well. In the rest of the south you are doing okay but the Reform Party never really appealed to most of it.

Pity.  I take it I cannot get a state-by-state breakdown of where I stand?
No you can, I am just being lazy and I didn't expect you to want that. Tongue

North Carolina: Romney 28%, Costine 27%, Xahar 25%, Duroy 8%, Undecided 12%
South Carolina: Romney 34%, Xahar 27%, Costine 26%, Duroy 5%, Undecided 8%
Georgia: Romney 33%, Costine 28%, Xahar 26%, Duroy 5%, Undecided 8%
Virginia: Costine 36%, Romney 29%, Xahar 26%, Duroy 8%, Undecided 11%
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2008, 07:09:20 PM »

I just thought I should mention my name is Constine, not Costine.
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2008, 07:18:02 PM »

I just thought I should mention my name is Constine, not Costine.

No it's cosine.



Ah, and yes, I'm dropping out of the race but looking to stay active in this game. Probably helping out or doing some debates/polls etc. If I'm allowed.
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