Why did Obama win Indiana in '08?

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Hnv1:
The bigger question is how did IN flip but MO didn't despite coming to so close. in 2008 MO was still considered at least a possible battleground

Inmate Trump:
Quote from: Hnv1 on December 16, 2020, 08:15:37 AM

The bigger question is how did IN flip but MO didn't despite coming to so close. in 2008 MO was still considered at least a possible battleground




Obama was also very close in Montana.  I wish he'd won both of those states, the map would've been prettier.

Hope For A New Era:
Quote from: Hnv1 on December 16, 2020, 08:15:37 AM

The bigger question is how did IN flip but MO didn't despite coming to so close. in 2008 MO was still considered at least a possible battleground



Race. Hill would have won MO easily.

Hnv1:
Quote from: EastOfEden on December 16, 2020, 10:25:04 AM

Quote from: Hnv1 on December 16, 2020, 08:15:37 AM

The bigger question is how did IN flip but MO didn't despite coming to so close. in 2008 MO was still considered at least a possible battleground



Race. Hill would have won MO easily.


Indiana has quite a lot of racial “history” of its own

pbrower2a:
A trifecta of economic disaster.  A telling area is Elkhart, a center for the RV industry. Look at what could all go wrong:

1. a scary economic meltdown. When people are comparing 2008 to 1929, that's horrid for the incumbent's Party.

2. a credit crunch. Even if many RVs are paid for in cash, many are bought on time-payment plans. When credit tightens, consumer purchases flee from big-ticket consumer items. RV's are about as big-ticket as one gets short of housing.

3. Soaring petroleum prices. There was speculative activity in petroleum as the last speculative game in town. I once saw gas prices at $5.49 a gallon in the autumn of 2008. (That would crash). RV's devour gasoline like a tiger devours meat.

By 2012 all of those were over, and Indiana voters went back to voting R.   

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