1976 and On

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How is Congress looking?  Maybe a candidate very popular in the northeast (and a black candidate to help in the south), plus no Watergate would help the GOP do better in Congressional races.  Did Rockefeller stay on as Governor of NY or did he resign as Governor in 73 as per OTL?  Because I think if he stayed on as governor he would not have run in the primaries, unlike his plans OTL, thinking Ford would not run for a term of his own

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what a beautiful map! And a wonderful cabinet, too!

Indeed!  Great for the GOP in 1980/4!

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And what does the Congressional composition look like?

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In all seriousness, I look forward to a Bensen presidency.

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Continue. please.

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And what does the Congressional composition look like?

Democrats swept both Houses of Congress with super majorities.

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Instead of many words....

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good so far; looking forward to it

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Interesting update!

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Go Ronny Go!  Go!  Go Ronny Go!

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Yes! Dick Cheney's heading the CIA! Should be quite interesting, though I wasn't expecting Reagan to win.

I was.  What's congress looking like?

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Interesting

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Very good so far, but I must ask: what does congress look like after 1984?  Also, I like Ford, but he admitted that had he not been offered the VP spot by Nixon, he would've retired in 74.  He also said if he had become speaker, he may have retired as early as 1970

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Very good so far, but I must ask: what does congress look like after 1984?  Also, I like Ford, but he admitted that had he not been offered the VP spot by Nixon, he would've retired in 74.  He also said if he had become speaker, he may have retired as early as 1970

Ford is retiring after the midterms. Republicans control both Houses, though Democrats will have some pick ups in '86, but not enough to take control. However '88 will of course be up the air, as a lot will depend on what Reagan decides....

Interesting...

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Uh oh...please tell me Al D'Amato or Daniel Patrick Moynihan is holding the other NY Senate seat...and Wilson in CA...  Please?

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Very interesting, THANK YOU FOR GOVERNOR PAUL .  Maybe this campaign will give him some publicity for a later run.

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Kemp / ? 1996!

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.  Why must the old be forced into retirement!

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.  Why must the old be forced into retirement!

I know, but I have some ideas for the future of this timeline that make this necessary...

I understand .  Looking forward to next update.  And seeing Jessie Helms

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Bump

Sadly, I think he's on another TL right now.

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I actually think that Brooke was more conservative than people think.  I would've voted for him over Jimmy Carter.

I wouldn't have.  He was liberal enough, and vs Carter he'd be about the same.  Better a democrat takes responsibility when his policies come crashing down, for a GOP landslide come midterm time

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I would argue that most of the time, the worst Republican is better than the best Democrat, in the words of Democrat-turned-Republican Dick Morris.

I'm not sure about that.  That's like saying that Jacob Javits is better than Mark Warner, Jim Webb, or Harry Byrd, Jr.

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I'm a conservative, and the truth is, there is really no such thing as a conservative Democrat anymore.  Unless you're an Indepemdent, you're either a liberal Obama/Pelosi/Reid Democrat, or you're a Republican.  I'm just sayng that the Republicans need to reclaim their heritage not just as the Party of Lincoln, Goldwater, and Reagan, but also as the Party of Thaddeus Stevens, Charles Sumner, Theodore Roosevelt, and Nelson Rockefeller.  The positions that ate considered "liberal" or "conservative" change over time with society.  In other words, the liberals and conservatives of 50 or 100 years ago would not necessarily fit the contemporary definitions of political liberals or conservatives because of the ways sociey has changed in that time.  Ironically enough, for most of our nation's history, the Republicans would have been considered the liberals in regard to social issues, such as supporting the passage of civil rights laws and women's suffrage.  Based on the standards of that time, I would have been considered a liberal then, but based on today's standards, I would be considered a conservative (and I pride myself on that.)

This is true, but there liberal Repubs.  So would you vote for Joe Liberman/Russ Feingold/Brian Schweitzer or Susan Collins/Olympia Snowe?  Would you consider the former more conservative (in Feingolds case libertarian) than the latter?

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Is Russ Feingold really conservative?  I like Joe Lieberman, but he's a liberal on everything except defended/foreign policy issues.  I'd probably vote for Susan Colon's or Olympia Snow before any of those guys except Lieberman.  I would consider them to be moderate Republicans, not liberal ones.  Nowadays, the most liberal Republican is usually to the right of even the most conservative Democrat.

Feingold is a libertarian.  Both the Maine ladies are pro-choice, Snowe adamantly so.  Snowe also considered voting for Obamacare, and supported elements of the bill, as well as a public option

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Is Russ Feingold really conservative?  I like Joe Lieberman, but he's a liberal on everything except defended/foreign policy issues.  I'd probably vote for Susan Colon's or Olympia Snow before any of those guys except Lieberman.  I would consider them to be moderate Republicans, not liberal ones.  Nowadays, the most liberal Republican is usually to the right of even the most conservative Democrat.

Feingold is a libertarian. 

If you consider supporting single-payer healthcare libertarian, maybe.

I mean on civil liberties.  He was the only 1 of 100 senators who voted against PATRIOT ACT in 01