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« on: March 06, 2020, 03:44:28 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=017c2b2d-c3b9-4315-9f9d-874cd64ba945

Joe 36
Bernie 35
Warren 10
Other dems 13
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2020, 03:51:51 PM »

Ugh. I imagine Bernie will pull it off with Warren out now but who knows...
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2020, 03:54:41 PM »

Worth noting that about 250K had already voted before South Carolina. Totally depends on how many voted while Warren was still in (but Bloomberg/Buttigieg/Klobuchar weren't), and how many Warren supporters will actually end up voting for Sanders. Probably going to be pretty close either way.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2020, 03:55:45 PM »

Even if it’s close it’s bad for Bernie
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2020, 04:08:54 PM »

More evidence that Bernie could have won the nomination, if Warren strongly endorsed him...
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2020, 04:11:42 PM »

More evidence that Bernie could have won the nomination, if Warren strongly endorsed him...

Yeah, he could have squeaked by in WA.  That's all he needs to win.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2020, 04:36:39 PM »

More evidence that Bernie could have won the nomination, if Warren strongly endorsed him...

Yeah, he could have squeaked by in WA.  That's all he needs to win.

LOL, what a strawman. If you don't understand that a strong endorsement from Warren before ST, or even better after NH, could have changed race considerably, I can't help ya. He would like have won more states than Biden, including symbolically very important TX. He would have shored up margins in CA. He'd likely have won more delegates and got a good coverage from MSM.

I don't know, if it would have been enough, but it COULD have been enough to win the nomination. No questions about that.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2020, 04:45:55 PM »

More evidence that Bernie could have won the nomination, if Warren strongly endorsed him...

Yeah, he could have squeaked by in WA.  That's all he needs to win.

LOL, what a strawman. If you don't understand that a strong endorsement from Warren before ST, or even better after NH, could have changed race considerably, I can't help ya. He would like have won more states than Biden, including symbolically very important TX. He would have shored up margins in CA. He'd likely have won more delegates and got a good coverage from MSM.

I don't know, if it would have been enough, but it COULD have been enough to win the nomination. No questions about that.

This poll doesn't offer evidence of anything outside of Washington state.  The rest is just you engaging in wishful thinking because you wanted Sanders as the opponent for your man Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2020, 04:49:24 PM »

More evidence that Bernie could have won the nomination, if Warren strongly endorsed him...

Yeah, he could have squeaked by in WA.  That's all he needs to win.

LOL, what a strawman. If you don't understand that a strong endorsement from Warren before ST, or even better after NH, could have changed race considerably, I can't help ya. He would like have won more states than Biden, including symbolically very important TX. He would have shored up margins in CA. He'd likely have won more delegates and got a good coverage from MSM.

I don't know, if it would have been enough, but it COULD have been enough to win the nomination. No questions about that.

Sure, and if Bloomberg had dropped out and endorsed Biden before ST, he may have won other states as well. But neither happened and we are here where we are now. Warren is out of the race and she has not endorsed Sanders and likely won't endorse him.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2020, 05:05:48 PM »

With Warren out, I'm far less certain Biden will win, but I'm still fairly bullish on his chances here. If Sanders does win, it won't be by much.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2020, 05:06:43 PM »

This poll doesn't offer evidence of anything outside of Washington state.
Sigh. Google "correlation".



More evidence that Bernie could have won the nomination, if Warren strongly endorsed him...

Yeah, he could have squeaked by in WA.  That's all he needs to win.

LOL, what a strawman. If you don't understand that a strong endorsement from Warren before ST, or even better after NH, could have changed race considerably, I can't help ya. He would like have won more states than Biden, including symbolically very important TX. He would have shored up margins in CA. He'd likely have won more delegates and got a good coverage from MSM.

I don't know, if it would have been enough, but it COULD have been enough to win the nomination. No questions about that.

Sure, and if Bloomberg had dropped out and endorsed Biden before ST, he may have won other states as well. But neither happened and we are here where we are now. Warren is out of the race and she has not endorsed Sanders and likely won't endorse him.

Yes. And then you reasonably could have been arguing that Bloomy costed Biden nomination. Why is this take controversial? If you read my posts, I said that Bloomy was "stealing" votes from Biden and Warren from Bernie.

Another "controversial" take for you - if Stein and Johnson would drop out and endorse Hillary, she likely would have been President. But it didn't happen and we are here where we are now.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2020, 05:14:49 PM »

Lovely. Seems clear that Democrats do NOT want to give Bernie the opportunity to do what he did to Hillary again. He's been found out.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2020, 05:42:52 PM »

First this Poll is JUNK. SUSA have been very bad. Sanders will win Washington.

Please don't engage to the Biden Trollers here.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2020, 06:05:32 PM »

It's important to remember that Hillary Clinton won the ceremonial primary in 2016, so it's believable that this is close.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2020, 06:15:58 PM »

Biden winning WA is fabulous news.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2020, 06:46:36 PM »

Biden won't win WA now win Warren out.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2020, 07:35:12 PM »

I expect Sanders to win here still, but it might be closer than ideal for him.

Also there is no guarantee that Sanders even gets the majority of Warren's previous supporters. He'll still probably get a plurality at least, which could help, but not enough.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2020, 07:53:08 PM »

This race probably would've been close anyway considering Hillary defeated Bernie in the higher-turnout primary in '16.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2020, 09:28:10 PM »

Lots of wealthy suburbanites in WA, so Biden has a good chance. I still think Seattle will pull through for Bernie, but since this is over anyway perhaps it's better that they didn't and we can end this in a few days instead of making it a dragged out, agonizing process.
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2020, 10:56:29 PM »

Even if it’s close it’s bad for Bernie
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2020, 11:17:34 PM »

I bet he now regrets, not running a negative campaign was a bad idea, now, he attacks Biden on trade
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2020, 11:29:19 PM »

Supports the theory that Sanders’ respectable 2016 national showing was mostly just him being propped up by caucuses and not actual wide swaths of the electorate. Remember how drastically different the Washington and Nebraska caucuses were from their respective beauty contest primaries
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2020, 11:57:11 PM »

Bernie once again has the benefit in WA that most ballots were cast in advance by mail, like in CA or CO.

This will split the vote once again because a lot of people still voted for Pete, Amy, Bloomberg, Warren and others, enabling him a good result.

Not sure how many Election Day voters there will be in WA, but Bernie will get killed in other Election Day only states such as MO, MS or even MI next week ...
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2020, 06:04:24 PM »


Welcome to team Biden, OC.
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2020, 10:47:10 PM »

Supports the theory that Sanders’ respectable 2016 national showing was mostly just him being propped up by caucuses and not actual wide swaths of the electorate. Remember how drastically different the Washington and Nebraska caucuses were from their respective beauty contest primaries

Most caucus states in 2016 were those that were demographically favourable to Bernie. The Washington/Nebraska beauty contest primaries naturally had far lower turnout due to their irrelevance but Bernie did fine in the primaries of similar states.
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